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Dave The Man 
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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AFL power clubs like Collingwood and Hawthorn could be forced to pour millions of dollars into an equalisation superfund being pushed by players.
The powerful player union confirmed it will fight for the introduction of a radical revenue-sharing arrangement between the AFL’s 18 teams in upcoming wages negotiations with league chiefs.
The essence of the tax scheme is to take millions of dollars from high-revenue clubs and reallocate them to financial battlers – guaranteeing the future of clubs and the jobs of 800 players.
The AFL Players’ Association revenue-sharing model is based on systems used in the NBA, NFL and Major League Baseball.
However, Collingwood president Eddie McGuire and Hawthorn counterpart Andrew Newbold slammed the proposal. McGuire saying he would quit if it was introduced.
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I agree with Eddie. Why should Rich and Well Run Clubs help the Poor and Bad Run Clubs?
They should look after themselves
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/aflpa-pushes-for-radical-club-equalisation-superfund-power-clubs-not-happy/story-e6frf7jo-1227339179234
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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I would like a couple of Victorian clubs to fold.
18 clubs is too many and it dilutes the carve up of
the pie for players and money.
Get rid of St Kilda and Melbourne and Norf and the Dogs.
It would leave the comp with 14 teams and a viable national competition.
As for Eddies concerns we need some sort of equality.
Trouble is - if everything is shared then why bother with sponsors and
members, etc.....
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Location: Between London and Melbourne
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| thompsoc wrote: | I would like a couple of Victorian clubs to fold.
18 clubs is too many and it dilutes the carve up of
the pie for players and money.
Get rid of St Kilda and Melbourne and Norf and the Dogs.
It would leave the comp with 14 teams and a viable national competition.
As for Eddies concerns we need some sort of equality.
Trouble is - if everything is shared then why bother with sponsors and
members, etc..... |
Merge not fold, and yep I agree with you. The system is unsustainable. North and Footscray would form a natural bloc with some geographic logic, as would Melbourne and Richmond. St Cowpat should merge withthe ocean just off Portsea.
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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St Cowpat to merge with the sewage farm across the bay.
Would be a good match up.
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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| thompsoc wrote: | I would like a couple of Victorian clubs to fold.
18 clubs is too many and it dilutes the carve up of
the pie for players and money.
Get rid of St Kilda and Melbourne and Norf and the Dogs.
It would leave the comp with 14 teams and a viable national competition.
As for Eddies concerns we need some sort of equality.
Trouble is - if everything is shared then why bother with sponsors and
members, etc..... |
Agree - There is to many clubs in Melborune and not enough money going around.
Just look how Rich Freo and West Coast are
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Without a national comp in all states then the TV rights are not
worth that much.
I wonder how the demise of TV and the rise of the Internet will
affect this money train for the AFL.
Will it make the national comp more or less viable?
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swoop42 
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Joined: 02 Aug 2008
Location: The 18
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Footscray Kangaroos and Melbourne Saints has a nice ring to it.
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Golden Gordon 
Joined: 06 May 2015
Location: Victoria Park
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Surely Collingwood could take a decision like this to the Fair Trade Commission. There is no way that the big clubs should be handing over millions to support underperforming clubs. What next? Collingwood is asked to fund the Brisbane Lions next flag as well? We did that in the early 2000s.  Not happy Jan. Stick it up 'em Ed.
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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This also hurts Members as we think when we pay to be Member of our Club. Then its the Club who only gets that money. Not Other Teams.
I can Understand the AFL Members money getting spread but not IF you join a Club as a Paying Member
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mattys123
Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Narre Warren, VIC
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| thompsoc wrote: | Without a national comp in all states then the TV rights are not
worth that much.
I wonder how the demise of TV and the rise of the Internet will
affect this money train for the AFL.
Will it make the national comp more or less viable? |
The demise of TV as we know it will actually assist sporting leagues in raising revenue if anything.
Think about it, if the AFL could run it's own direct broadcast service to every smart TV, phone, computer, tablet, watch, eye piece etc in the future, they would fully control the revenue from those streams.
Channel 7 and Foxtel pay well over $1 billion for a TV rights contract because quite simply they make more then that back off advertising revenue anyway.
Therefore it's actually going to get better for the richer clubs in the future, as the AFL itself will be able to self fund it's grandious plans for expansion into fanciful markets.
Bring on the Singapore Lions, the Auckland Saints, the Hobart Kangaroos, the Canberra Bulldogs, the Mandurah Demons I say.  |
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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| mattys123 wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | Without a national comp in all states then the TV rights are not
worth that much.
I wonder how the demise of TV and the rise of the Internet will
affect this money train for the AFL.
Will it make the national comp more or less viable? |
The demise of TV as we know it will actually assist sporting leagues in raising revenue if anything.
Think about it, if the AFL could run it's own direct broadcast service to every smart TV, phone, computer, tablet, watch, eye piece etc in the future, they would fully control the revenue from those streams.
Channel 7 and Foxtel pay well over $1 billion for a TV rights contract because quite simply they make more then that back off advertising revenue anyway.
Therefore it's actually going to get better for the richer clubs in the future, as the AFL itself will be able to self fund it's grandious plans for expansion into fanciful markets.
Bring on the Singapore Lions, the Auckland Saints, the Hobart Kangaroos, the Canberra Bulldogs, the Mandurah Demons I say. |
In America NFL,MLB and NBA have there won TV Channel. That they own and Run
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perthmagpie 
Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Location: Yarrawonga
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Ok great. We have salary caps, draft order, slewed fixtures, equalisation funds, football dept taxes and now this. Shit why don't force fifty percent of our staff come to work blindfolded three days a week? That'll help the weak clubs that have uncommitted supporters.
Or they coild try saying 'here is your bill for your $864 for your Legends membership. Please pay $648 to Collingwood and the balance of $216 to one of the following clubs of your choice via MasterCard or Visa: North Melb, Bulldogs, St.Kilda, Carlton, Melbourne, GWS, Gold Coast, Brisbane or Port Adeliade.
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Albow 
Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Location: Tapping, WA
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NBA Teams and all NFL Teams all bar the Green Bay Packers have owners who run like a business and dont rely on membership dollars for income.
Effectively our membership money will be used to support other teams. Disgusting.
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John Wren
"Look after the game. It means so much to so many."
Joined: 15 Jul 2007
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many leagues around the wirld have revenue sharing. my view used to be very different to now thinking we cannot lose any of the clubs and we have to ensure all clubs are competitive. even though we've seen some teams relapse and experience blowouts we're now seeing a narrowing of the gap between the best and worst teams.
for those who perpetually suggest the likes if melbourne, welfare, saints and pauperoos merge, relicate or fold they really should add carlton to that list. but it'd be no good to the fabric of the game if we lost any clubs. a strong competition will ensure that a greater revenue will be derived from traditional channels and a greater number of new sources.
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Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
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Along with the drug fiasco, this could end our great game. What would be the point? You want less teams get rid of the ones with no support. Get rid of the Queensland teams. A propped competition is bullshit, what next draw straws for who gets the next premiership? The AFL gifted the lions with three, and yet they still can't get their act together, Sydney was gifted their first, and the AFL admits they cannot allow them to slide. What the hell kind of competition is that? The Melbourne Storm get no such concessions from the rugby league, and yet they survive.
All well and good saying merge this, merge that, what if our name came up?
Eddie is right as usual, complete bullshit suggestion. Did the AFL get other clubs to help us when we were on our knees? That's a big fat NO,
So over this crap, stop playing with our game.
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