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John Wren
"Look after the game. It means so much to so many."
Joined: 15 Jul 2007
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RudeBoy wrote: | I must say I get rather bemused when I hear Bucks and others say they've tried everything with Cloke's kicking, using coaches, scientists and psychologists. It doesn't ring true to me.
Why is it then, that Cloke's basic kicking action - leaning back and dropping the ball from up high - has been the same throughout his whole career? It seems to me that the coaches have been conned by sports scientists who say you can't change an adults basic kicking technique, all you can do is tinker with it. What a crock! His technique is TOTALLY wrong. For set shots, he needs a total overhaul. He needs to lean forward, hold the ball low over his foot and watch the ball onto his foot - not watch the goals. Until I see some evidence of a significant change to his kicking technique, I will assume the club has given up on him. The poor bastard is trying, but after 10 f*cking years, it should be clear to him (and everyone else) that it aint working. |
how many goals did you kick during your career? _________________ Purveyor of sanctimonious twaddle. |
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What'sinaname
Joined: 29 May 2010 Location: Living rent free
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John Wren wrote: | RudeBoy wrote: | I must say I get rather bemused when I hear Bucks and others say they've tried everything with Cloke's kicking, using coaches, scientists and psychologists. It doesn't ring true to me.
Why is it then, that Cloke's basic kicking action - leaning back and dropping the ball from up high - has been the same throughout his whole career? It seems to me that the coaches have been conned by sports scientists who say you can't change an adults basic kicking technique, all you can do is tinker with it. What a crock! His technique is TOTALLY wrong. For set shots, he needs a total overhaul. He needs to lean forward, hold the ball low over his foot and watch the ball onto his foot - not watch the goals. Until I see some evidence of a significant change to his kicking technique, I will assume the club has given up on him. The poor bastard is trying, but after 10 f*cking years, it should be clear to him (and everyone else) that it aint working. |
how many goals did you kick during your career? |
Yeah, but I bet Rudeboy has missed less shots at goal than Trav. In fact Rudeboy has never missed a critical goal, which is way better than Trav. _________________ Fighting against the objectification of woman. |
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John Wren
"Look after the game. It means so much to so many."
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the games was easier back in 1951. _________________ Purveyor of sanctimonious twaddle. |
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Fire Up
Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Location: in a house
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what trav has to do is start from the basics, do a new run up and just get 1 person to teach him how to kick inside 30 metres.
even eddie said on radio he will teach cloke how to kick at goal |
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Brenny
Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Location: Westpac Centre
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Nathan Buckley on 360 tonight. So much love.
If I had a girlfriend right now and she was in bed with Bucks... I have to agree with Eddie here... I wouldn't know which side to get in on.
<3 to him. Talking about Cloke and White. Also sticking up for Watts and calling stories of whites 2.2 from the weekend as an issue, lazy journalism. |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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Gotta love how Bucks calls a spade a spade, stands up for the players and deals with the media.
The lazy journalism crack was followed up with some lingering eye contact with Robbo who had no response whatsoever.
Although, having seen Bucks close up, unless my GF was an utter pigdog (in which case I'm wondering why I keep her around) I'm getting in her side of the bed every time, thanks for playing. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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John Wren wrote: | RudeBoy wrote: | I must say I get rather bemused when I hear Bucks and others say they've tried everything with Cloke's kicking, using coaches, scientists and psychologists. It doesn't ring true to me.
Why is it then, that Cloke's basic kicking action - leaning back and dropping the ball from up high - has been the same throughout his whole career? It seems to me that the coaches have been conned by sports scientists who say you can't change an adults basic kicking technique, all you can do is tinker with it. What a crock! His technique is TOTALLY wrong. For set shots, he needs a total overhaul. He needs to lean forward, hold the ball low over his foot and watch the ball onto his foot - not watch the goals. Until I see some evidence of a significant change to his kicking technique, I will assume the club has given up on him. The poor bastard is trying, but after 10 f*cking years, it should be clear to him (and everyone else) that it aint working. |
how many goals did you kick during your career? |
So you think Cloke's kicking action is fine do you?
Anyone who has heard Matthew Lloyd talking about Cloke's kicking action knows that it needs major surgery. However, I am yet to see much change in his action over the past decade. It stank 10 years ago and it stinks today. If you can't see that JW, then perhaps you use a white cane. |
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Collingwood 4 eternity
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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The Run Home
The Run Home – Verified account @TheRunHome
Thoughts on Travis Cloke's foot position?
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheRunHome/status/597654716038811648
_________________ 1990 Grand Final :
"From the back pocket, this will be probably the last kick, he need not even kick it, the drought is over. 32 years they've waited, let the celebrations begin" Sandy Roberts |
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John Wren
"Look after the game. It means so much to so many."
Joined: 15 Jul 2007
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RudeBoy wrote: | John Wren wrote: | RudeBoy wrote: | I must say I get rather bemused when I hear Bucks and others say they've tried everything with Cloke's kicking, using coaches, scientists and psychologists. It doesn't ring true to me.
Why is it then, that Cloke's basic kicking action - leaning back and dropping the ball from up high - has been the same throughout his whole career? It seems to me that the coaches have been conned by sports scientists who say you can't change an adults basic kicking technique, all you can do is tinker with it. What a crock! His technique is TOTALLY wrong. For set shots, he needs a total overhaul. He needs to lean forward, hold the ball low over his foot and watch the ball onto his foot - not watch the goals. Until I see some evidence of a significant change to his kicking technique, I will assume the club has given up on him. The poor bastard is trying, but after 10 f*cking years, it should be clear to him (and everyone else) that it aint working. |
how many goals did you kick during your career? |
So you think Cloke's kicking action is fine do you?
Anyone who has heard Matthew Lloyd talking about Cloke's kicking action knows that it needs major surgery. However, I am yet to see much change in his action over the past decade. It stank 10 years ago and it stinks today. If you can't see that JW, then perhaps you use a white cane. |
chill rudie. clearly, my comment was a wind up. i can't kick over a jam tin so am one not to judge.
tbh, i lose no sleep over cloke's kicking. nothing i can do about it and i am sure the club is doing what it can. i don't carry the angst that others do. it's only one aspect of our game. _________________ Purveyor of sanctimonious twaddle. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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John Wren wrote: | RudeBoy wrote: | John Wren wrote: | RudeBoy wrote: | I must say I get rather bemused when I hear Bucks and others say they've tried everything with Cloke's kicking, using coaches, scientists and psychologists. It doesn't ring true to me.
Why is it then, that Cloke's basic kicking action - leaning back and dropping the ball from up high - has been the same throughout his whole career? It seems to me that the coaches have been conned by sports scientists who say you can't change an adults basic kicking technique, all you can do is tinker with it. What a crock! His technique is TOTALLY wrong. For set shots, he needs a total overhaul. He needs to lean forward, hold the ball low over his foot and watch the ball onto his foot - not watch the goals. Until I see some evidence of a significant change to his kicking technique, I will assume the club has given up on him. The poor bastard is trying, but after 10 f*cking years, it should be clear to him (and everyone else) that it aint working. |
how many goals did you kick during your career? |
So you think Cloke's kicking action is fine do you?
Anyone who has heard Matthew Lloyd talking about Cloke's kicking action knows that it needs major surgery. However, I am yet to see much change in his action over the past decade. It stank 10 years ago and it stinks today. If you can't see that JW, then perhaps you use a white cane. |
chill rudie. clearly, my comment was a wind up. i can't kick over a jam tin so am one not to judge.
tbh, i lose no sleep over cloke's kicking. nothing i can do about it and i am sure the club is doing what it can. i don't carry the angst that others do. it's only one aspect of our game. |
OK Bucks I'll chill. |
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DT56
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RudeBoy wrote: | I must say I get rather bemused when I hear Bucks and others say they've tried everything with Cloke's kicking, using coaches, scientists and psychologists. It doesn't ring true to me.
Why is it then, that Cloke's basic kicking action - leaning back and dropping the ball from up high - has been the same throughout his whole career? It seems to me that the coaches have been conned by sports scientists who say you can't change an adults basic kicking technique, all you can do is tinker with it. What a crock! His technique is TOTALLY wrong. For set shots, he needs a total overhaul. He needs to lean forward, hold the ball low over his foot and watch the ball onto his foot - not watch the goals. Until I see some evidence of a significant change to his kicking technique, I will assume the club has given up on him. The poor bastard is trying, but after 10 f*cking years, it should be clear to him (and everyone else) that it aint working. |
110% agree .. Dropping the ball from above his waist and expecting it to land correctly on his foot is gagah suff |
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