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What'sinaname
Joined: 29 May 2010 Location: Living rent free
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That weird back kick thing he does makes me think someone is taking the piss and laughing at how gullible we are in adopting it.
Lose it and start kicking like a god damn footballer, not some ballet dancer. _________________ Fighting against the objectification of woman. |
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Flashman
Joined: 11 Aug 2007
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I was walking my dog the other morning and she adopts a posture strikingly similar to Travs cocked leg when she is about to take a dump. I laughed out loud when I noticed the resemblance and the result was almost identical to what Travs routine produces. |
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Piesnchess
piesnchess
Joined: 09 Jun 2008
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The King of the Shank, he should just mark the ball, which he can do pretty well, and pass it off, or handball to a running player nearby. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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Greeny2968
Joined: 25 May 2013
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Buckley concedes Cloke must improve his set shot kicking for goal, but says he continues to work hard on the issue with the full support of the club.
"The 20 blokes who are going to write me letters (of advice) this week just know that they're going straight in the bin because we've got everything we need," Buckley told SEN Radio on Saturday.
"He's put in a lot of work, he couldn't put more work in, but the systems and processes we have in place - we couldn't do any better.
EXACTLY THE PROBLEM:
Bucks has given up on Cloke - so why do we play him as a forward?
He wrestles instead of leading; can't kick straight. Yes - we need a replacement before we drop him, and playing VFL won't fix the problem. Maybe a lead up half forward/wingman??? |
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mattys123
Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Location: Narre Warren, VIC
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I don't get it, I really don't get all this negativity about Cloke.
He's got no forward help for a start, but that's another problem all on it's own.
I get other fans of others clubs bagging him for missing shots, but hello, HAVE YOU EVER WATCHED HIM PLAY?
He's Travis Cloke, he's missed the easy shots and kicked the hard ones his whole career.
This is nothing new. |
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Greeny2968
Joined: 25 May 2013
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Mate,
What don't you get???
"He's Travis Cloke, he's missed the easy shots and kicked the hard ones his whole career."
EXACTLY THE PROBLEM...
He can't kick easy shots - this is not acceptable if you are meant to be the number 1 forward at the club! |
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PyreneesPie
PyreneesPie
Joined: 22 Aug 2014
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35forever wrote: |
My workaround was to select someone in the crowd in line with the goal and about 50m away (or a tree etc on the quiet days) and simply pass the ball to them. |
This I believe is the solution. When in close, there is nothing that stands out as something to aim for. It's just a lot of generalized crowd background there. There needs to be a yellow banner or some members especially selected to wear yellow or any other colour that stands out... anything that his eyes can focus on as a target, something to kick to.
When he's further out, there's those big white sticks to aim for, when passing to another player, he's concentrating on that target. Nothing wrong with his technique then. |
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Tannin
Can't remember
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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Just bring in an expert. Someone with vast experience, and more to the point, relevant experience. Someone who knows all about breaking fans' hearts, someone who has years of practice taking the tough marks in packs and missing the easy ones from 10m out while slotting the impossibles dead-centre half-post high off a step from 50+ and on the run from 65. Get Matthew Richardson.
Then write down carefully everything he says.
Then do the opposite. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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Brenny
Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Location: Westpac Centre
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Friday was the first time in a while I've been utterly disappointed in Travis Cloke to the point I questioned whether or not he was worth keeping.
Now I'm over it, obviously, he's worth keeping but I've lost all faith in his ability to kick a goal from anywhere within 45m.
Somebody said to me on Friday that somebody has to say to Travis, how do you want to be remembered. As a power forward who dominated his opponents and was one of the best forwards in the game, or somebody who couldn't kick a goal. At the moment he will be remembered as a very average forward who could mark.
Sorry Travis, at your age I don't know how to fix you, but I've lost faith in his ability.
That goal he missed would have taken us within two goals. From where he missed is unacceptable and changed the momentum of the game. We had such a good run until then. The fact he demands 7-800k is unacceptable and he should be ashamed.
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stoliboy
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Sydney, NSW
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There is a permanent solution:
Another solution is from the movie Tin Cup when Kevin Costner has trouble shanking his golf swing. -- "Tin Cup" Gold Swing scene: https://youtu.be/M5CkmKGQDb0?t=138
This is a two stage strategy:
1. Before he kicks:
- Right sock up and left sock down
- Left shoe lace in a double knot
- Glove velcro off
- Shorts lace undone
2. Get drunk the night before and play hungover _________________ Sydney Collingwood Supporters Club
http://sydneymagpies.magpies.net/ |
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Johnno75
Joined: 07 Oct 2010 Location: Wantirna
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CTV had highlights of our 2008 romp of the Cats. Trav might do himself a favour and get a copy of that game and study how he kicked for goal that night. _________________ Human behavioural studies suggest people who use a lot of swear words tend to be more honest & trustworthy. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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I must say I get rather bemused when I hear Bucks and others say they've tried everything with Cloke's kicking, using coaches, scientists and psychologists. It doesn't ring true to me.
Why is it then, that Cloke's basic kicking action - leaning back and dropping the ball from up high - has been the same throughout his whole career? It seems to me that the coaches have been conned by sports scientists who say you can't change an adults basic kicking technique, all you can do is tinker with it. What a crock! His technique is TOTALLY wrong. For set shots, he needs a total overhaul. He needs to lean forward, hold the ball low over his foot and watch the ball onto his foot - not watch the goals. Until I see some evidence of a significant change to his kicking technique, I will assume the club has given up on him. The poor bastard is trying, but after 10 f*cking years, it should be clear to him (and everyone else) that it aint working. |
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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Move him to CHF permanently. He can then feed the likes of White, Karnesis and the others named as forwards. In the event of having a shot, he is much better from 50 metres out anyway so its a win - win situation I reckon. _________________ Don't confuse your current path with your final destination. Just because it's dark and stormy now doesn't meant that you aren't headed for glorious sunshine! |
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gurugeoff
Joined: 09 Oct 2013
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Lazza wrote: | Move him to CHF permanently. He can then feed the likes of White, Karnesis and the others named as forwards. In the event of having a shot, he is much better from 50 metres out anyway so its a win - win situation I reckon. |
Good point - either this or tell him to pass backwards to someone if he is within 30 metres. Don't laugh at this, this is a professional sport and we just sigh 'oh well, that's clokey' year after year. Gridiron has specialist kickers, rugby too i think, and even soccer picks it's best kicks first when lining up for a penalty shoot out.
Funny think about Trav is that he could be considered simultaneously the best kick in the league (from 60 metres out on the boundary line) and the worst (from 20 metres straight in front) |
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watt price tully
Joined: 15 May 2007
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Use electric shocks as he goes through with his kicking motion. This will quickly correct his action when in close range.
Impulses are sent to inflict pain if he deviates from the correct action. While I usually favour positive reinforcement to modify behaviour, I'm sick 'n tired of evidence based practice.
I want action & anecdotal evidence is enough from me. I want reason by spleen & liver.
Electrodes will be connected to a computer programme set up by Tannin, controlled by DTM & inserted before he goes to play with attachments connecting his brain to parts of his legs.
Guaranteed results in one week. _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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