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RudeBoy
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The little champ is the little champ.  |
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Cuthbert Collingwood 
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| Collingwood Crackerjack wrote: | | 17% disposal efficiency at half time; lets not get carried away |
As the commentators said - he moved the ball forward and into the forward line regardless of the effectiveness of the individual disposal. Ended up at 53% for the match which means his second half was elite.
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| Collingwood Crackerjack wrote: | | 17% disposal efficiency at half time; lets not get carried away |
wtf is that supposed to mean?
show some respect to the great Swan 
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dave_swan
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| Collingwood Crackerjack wrote: | | 17% disposal efficiency at half time; lets not get carried away |
92% efficiency in the 2nd half with 2 goals, including the go ahead goal.....he's a champion of the collingwood football club, and continues to prove himself time and time again.... |
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mosig
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| Cuthbert Collingwood wrote: | | Collingwood Crackerjack wrote: | | 17% disposal efficiency at half time; lets not get carried away |
As the commentators said - he moved the ball forward and into the forward line regardless of the effectiveness of the individual disposal. Ended up at 53% for the match which means his second half was elite. |
Over 90% in the second half - which is a fair turnaround. |
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bally12
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Let's be serious for a second. Swanny has won so many games for us over the years. He's put his body on the line, run himself into the ground, burst out of packs, kicked goals from nowhere, game after game after game. That prelim final in 2011 against Hawthorn he almost single-handedly hauled us across the line. In the ANZAC Day games he's destroyed Essendon for fun.
Yes, he's nearer to the end of his career now, and as a club we need to manage his body and game time carefully to maximise his output and effectiveness. But I find that now when he stuffs up, turns it over, or gets caught, I can only just sit back and think it's like paying back the football god a few dollars for the 1 million dollars he gave us when Swan landed on our door. |
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HAL
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AnthonyC
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I'm pretty sure the game that I was at today was not one where clean possession and disposal was easy. Might have been a little slippery at times. I could be wrong but.
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he kept a heart beat in the team in the first half and led us over the line in the second half culminating in the mark and goal to regain the lead for the last time
yet another match winning effort from the great man
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Jezza 
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| bally12 wrote: | Let's be serious for a second. Swanny has won so many games for us over the years. He's put his body on the line, run himself into the ground, burst out of packs, kicked goals from nowhere, game after game after game. That prelim final in 2011 against Hawthorn he almost single-handedly hauled us across the line. In the ANZAC Day games he's destroyed Essendon for fun.
Yes, he's nearer to the end of his career now, and as a club we need to manage his body and game time carefully to maximise his output and effectiveness. But I find that now when he stuffs up, turns it over, or gets caught, I can only just sit back and think it's like paying back the football god a few dollars for the 1 million dollars he gave us when Swan landed on our door. |
Great post!
Let's be honest I think most people agree that Swan is past his best and prone to more inconsistent performances these days but his very best football is still up there with the best players in the comp. His second half today was phenomenal.
You're totally right when you say that looking at the big picture Swan has brought us so much memories and jubilation with the way he's played his footy and nearly single-handedly beaten sides with the talent he has.
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Collingwood Crackerjack
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I was just pointing out that his disposal efficiency rate in the 1st half was unacceptable for any AFL player, let alone one of the pedigree of Swan.
2nd half spoke for itself, but its not a great look for a senior player to be so inconsistent. Some of his missed handballs, which were not under a lot of pressure, were metres off the mark
The gap between his best and worst at times appears to be widening, and at the risk of incurring the wrath of the multitude, I don't like the standard/example it sets for the younger players.
Me thinking that doesn't diminish what a champ he has been and still is; it just means he should be held to the standard of his quality and experience, no less.
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MatthewBoydFanClub
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| It was Swan who kept us in the game in the first half, then won the game for us in the second half. The question we should be asking ourselves is what are we going to do when Swan retires. |
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Collingwood Crackerjack
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How did Swan keep us in the game in the 1st half? He coughed it up time and again.
Was certainly integral to winning the game in the 2nd half, but would love to see a bit more consistency at this stage of his career.
Would more than happily accept a reduction in output if quality and consistency of disposal improved
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Pies4shaw 
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| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | It was Swan who kept us in the game in the first half, then won the game for us in the second half. The question we should be asking ourselves is what are we going to do when Swan retires. |
That question is the entire purpose of this thread.  |
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Cuthbert Collingwood
Once was on fire, now all at sea
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/magpie-dane-swan-bites-back-im-no-hasbeen-20150601-gheb10.html
| Quote: | At half-time he had a Swan-like tally of possessions (17), but an un-Swan-like use of the ball. His disposal was atrocious, his disposal efficiency was at a humbling 14 per cent, his kicking efficiency just 18 per cent.
"There were a lot of grubby kicks off the ground and stuff like that. But it was a bit of (North Melbourne's) pressure. They threw numbers back behind the ball and even though we talked about it a bit to get it out of a stoppage and boot it forward, it was a bit four on two, five on three. The way we were kicking it, we were not giving our forwards the best opportunity and they have some great drop-off players who come across and take marks," Swan said.
Swan's and Collingwood's game has been to play for territory more than possession so a hacked kick clear and forward from a stoppage can be misleadingly categorised as ineffective by the statistician but is very effective according to the coaches and what they have asked of the player. Thus Swan's first half also partly explained why his team could be winning clearances comfortably at half-time yet be trailing on the scoreboard so comprehensively as the Magpies were hurried into blind kicks forward under pressure.
In the second half, Swan exerted the sort of influence that was customary in his Brownlow year, but was more a memory last year.
His disposal efficiency in the second half of the game was 100 per cent. Everything hit its mark, including the two goals he kicked – the second which gave his team back the lead for the second, and final, time. |
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