Dear ASADA

Cam · Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:19 pm

Yes but, some of those players bulked up and increased their market value on the back of those PEDs. Don't forget that Essendon were 2nd on the ladder at round 10, 2012, in the heydey of this program, running over many sides in the second halves of games. In fact, they would have been on top had it not been for the shock loss to Melbourne, which, had it happened in India, would have ended some careers one way or another.

derkd · Joined: 29 May 2013

Piesnchess · piesnchess Joined: 09 Jun 2008

ON ABC News 24 today, some guy, some expert from ASADA, was saying the Dons players had been injected, "hundreds, possibly thousand times" ! Im just waiting for the shit to hit the fan in a few years, when these players, guinea pigs, start having serious side effects from these unknown drugs, the ones not even Hird knows what the hell they were, or anyone at the dons, evidence was destroyed. When these players, or some of em, cant have kids, have mysterious illnesses, and all manner of side effects, that's when they will start hitting the dumb dons with legal action, suing them for millions, when their health and well being starts falling apart. This aint over by a long chalk yet, down the track, huge payouts may have to be anted up, and will be anted up, by Essendon and Hird.

E · Joined: 05 May 2010

think positive · Side By Side Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere

I think the vast majority are in agreement about hird.

I don't get the "poor player" thing.

They are all schooled over and over and over before and after they get drafted.

Not one player out of how many, not one veteran, one who's daddy is well know around the joint, and footy in general, questioned the need for any kind of waiver? Not one player questioned getting treated like a pin cushion, not one player questioned going over the road to get them?

I call bullshit.

And let's not foget, ignorance is not a defence.

But they weren't ignorant, they knew something wasn't right, and yet they did it anyway. Guilty can be the only acceptable verdict.

E · Joined: 05 May 2010

droversdog65 · Joined: 27 Nov 2014

As I've stated before EFC are in it up to their necks

1. Get players to sign a blanket permission form
2. Get players offsite away from the club to distance themselves
3. Inject players hundreds of times
4. Keep no records of any of it.

Classic intentional systemic cheating syndrome.

EFC were totally in the picture, Turd was in the drivers seat, Dank was the procurer and the club doctor (can't remember name) needs to be deregistered.

These people were all in the know and willingly participated in the darkest chapter of Australian sporting history.

But while we are at it lets not forget the AFL were implicated right at the very start with the Bombers being warned - that for my part stinks to high heaven as well.

perthmagpie · Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Location: Yarrawonga

A couple things I'd like to point out.
1. Would people accept ASADA just giving up and letting the whole thing be left alone simply because a cheating club made it incredibly hard by destroying records, taking court action, using so many dodgy characters as consultants and suppliers that their testimony would not be believed and that they were so dodgy they could be incriminating themselves?

The problem was that this went to a sports tribunal who had no power under law to collect the required evidence about a dodgy program run by dodgy people who are prepared to hide it all by destroying all the records. This should have gone to a court of sport with court powers to subpoena and make people appear. I just hope like hell a former Essendon player like Hal Hunter cam somehow use statutory powers of disclosure in his Supreme Court application to find the real evidence in the timeframe for a WADA appeal and then we can get the result all of our teams need and deserve.

2. You'd think Essendon's football dept in 2011 and 2012 was some huge operation with hundreds of staff spread over multiple locations where a member was hidden away from a coach and they never crossed paths in the hallway or lunch room. This is a joke. A footy department has 15 or 20 people in a relatively small office areas and people would be operating just like they do in a business that size. For Hird to pretend he didn't keep seeing his players wandering off to get injections every day for months on end is crazy. The experimentation, the doping, the whatever takes was something they dealt with every day as it was all in their faces.

HAL · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:18 am

To me it is a bit of a surprise.

neil · Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Location: Queensland

Wonder how Eddie is feeling after all the support he gave to the EFC and now two Collingwood players are going to get two years.

They deserve two years if sample B terns out positive.

Piesnchess · piesnchess Joined: 09 Jun 2008