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sixpoints
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| Open Mike, this coming Monday has Mike Sheahan interviewing Phil Carman. Hooley Dooley could Fabulous Phil Carman play! Never forget 11 goals at Moorabbin in his first year. [/b] |
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boofa
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Phil COULD play alright dont worry about that.....
Unfortunately , Phil played in the best interests of Phil.
He cost Collingwood at least 2 flags with his undisciplined play.
The best comparison i could give you is Brendan Fevola, ALL CLASS , NO BRAINS.................................
The biggest Letdown player of all time at the pies was "Fab Phil"
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ClokingDevice
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Still a nutjob 
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Pies4shaw 
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| boofa wrote: | Phil COULD play alright dont worry about that.....
Unfortunately , Phil played in the best interests of Phil.
He cost Collingwood at least 2 flags with his undisciplined play.
The best comparison i could give you is Brendan Fevola, ALL CLASS , NO BRAINS.................................
The biggest Letdown player of all time at the pies was "Fab Phil" |
That's a creative call - 2 flags! I've spent the last 35 years shaking my head in disbelief at the laughable suggestion that Phil "cost" Collingwood the 1977 flag - when the 'Pies were almost 5 goals in front of a team which had scored 4 for the entire day at three-quarter time and he wasn't even on the ground when the rest of the team decided to wobble in public. But - at this late date - I expect that garbage to be trotted out every time his name is managed. I am extremely impressed, though, that you can find him at fault for some other Collingwood failure. Which was it? '75, '76 or '78? Or, perhaps, some other year after he'd left Collingwood? |
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woftam 
I used to be undecided, but now I'm not so sure.
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Location: Carum Downs, Vic
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| I thought this guy was the best player ever when I was a kid. He could do anything. Unfortunately his temper was his undoing. |
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Doc63
Joined: 06 May 2004
Location: Newport
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Here we go again.................
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Joeboy
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| in the game against hawthorn, phil carmen,s first qtr was the best individual quarter of footy one could wish to witness. the whole crowd stood as one clapping and cheering his magnificent display,the hawks had to do something to stop him ,so they sent Tuck onto him. Tuck hooked phil with a great punch to the chin and they both went to ground with tuck on top phil rolled him over and him one in retaliation for which he was pinged and got two weeks , which some say cost us a flag |
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RudeBoy
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| boofa wrote: | Phil COULD play alright dont worry about that.....
Unfortunately , Phil played in the best interests of Phil.
He cost Collingwood at least 2 flags with his undisciplined play.
The best comparison i could give you is Brendan Fevola, ALL CLASS , NO BRAINS.................................
The biggest Letdown player of all time at the pies was "Fab Phil" |
Sorry boofa, but that comparison with Fevola is so wrong!
Fevola was a lazy self centred player who did not train hard enough and was never fully fit. Fabulous Phil Carman was a fitness fanatic who trained far harder than all his teammates, which is one reason why he was not liked by a few players - because his professionalism made them look like amateurs. His only fault, was that he suffered from white line fever and unfortunately git rubbed out too many times. |
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piedys 
Heeeeeeere's Dyso!!!
Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Resident Forum Psychopath since 2003
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | boofa wrote: | Phil COULD play alright dont worry about that.....
Unfortunately , Phil played in the best interests of Phil.
He cost Collingwood at least 2 flags with his undisciplined play.
The biggest Letdown player of all time at the pies was "Fab Phil" |
That's a creative call - 2 flags! I've spent the last 35 years shaking my head in disbelief at the laughable suggestion that Phil "cost" Collingwood the 1977 flag - when the 'Pies were almost 5 goals in front of a team which had scored 4 for the entire day at three-quarter time and he wasn't even on the ground when the rest of the team decided to wobble in public. But - at this late date - I expect that garbage to be trotted out every time his name is managed. Or, perhaps, some other year after he'd left Collingwood? |
Mate, yours is the first opinion i've EVER read who doesn't hold Carmen accountable for 1977 draw, and subsequent loss.
We blame the club for releasing him for 1979, and not securing Quinlan to replace him.
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Pies4shaw
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| piedys wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | boofa wrote: | Phil COULD play alright dont worry about that.....
Unfortunately , Phil played in the best interests of Phil.
He cost Collingwood at least 2 flags with his undisciplined play.
The biggest Letdown player of all time at the pies was "Fab Phil" |
That's a creative call - 2 flags! I've spent the last 35 years shaking my head in disbelief at the laughable suggestion that Phil "cost" Collingwood the 1977 flag - when the 'Pies were almost 5 goals in front of a team which had scored 4 for the entire day at three-quarter time and he wasn't even on the ground when the rest of the team decided to wobble in public. But - at this late date - I expect that garbage to be trotted out every time his name is managed. Or, perhaps, some other year after he'd left Collingwood? |
Mate, yours is the first opinion i've EVER read who doesn't hold Carmen accountable for 1977 draw, and subsequent loss.
We blame the club for releasing him for 1979, and not securing Quinlan to replace him.
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Dyso, I completely understand that I am in the minority (perhaps even a minority of 1?) about this. However, my point is not that Phil's absence wasn't the result of a stupid act. It clearly was.
My concern has always been that the Club allowed responsibility for the loss to be deflected onto Carman. That game should never have been drawn. 27 points in front at the last change - and North hadn't kicked a goal for more than an hour of football. It takes a special effort not to win a game when you lead by almost 5 goals at the last change and the other team only scores 5 (and you score 1) in the final act.
IMO, the players who returned that miserable result should have been asked to take responsibility for it themselves - not given the easy out of blaming a player who did not participate.
As for Phil's replacement, Hafey wanted Edwards and got him. And Brewer. And Craig Davis. It's not like the Club was stuck with the recruiting problems of the present day. |
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mattys123
Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Narre Warren, VIC
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Tonight at 9.30pm on Fox Footy Mike Sheahan has a half hour interview with Phil Carman.
If the past few interviews in this series are anything to go by this should be must watch television, especially for those Pies fans who are old enough to have seen him play.
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
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Enjoying it so far, amazing how candid blokes can get,
One season for Melbourne, dropped to the seconds, kicked the footy at the coach and went home.
Different times I suppose, very different expectations to now on all sides.
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Mossi
Joined: 20 May 2002
Location: Vittorio Veneto TV Italy
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| woftam wrote: | | I thought this guy was the best player ever when I was a kid. He could do anything. Unfortunately his temper was his undoing. |
+1 second only to Greening. Just couldn't control his temper. |
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perthmagpie 
Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Location: Yarrawonga
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Phil was an incredible talent. He emerged just at the age my mum let me start going to the footy. Such a shame we did not win the 77 flag with him. He just had that white line fever. He was perhaps the biggest talent we had between the Greening era and the Daico era. After watching that interview he seems quite sad he missed out on staying at Collingwood. He admitted he had many regrets and wished he'd played 200 games with us and believed he could of helped us grabbed a flag from the years 79 to 81 if he and a couple other players had not left at the end of 78.
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ClokingDevice
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Even the way he moved was pure poetry
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