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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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| droversdog65 wrote: | Hard to make an accurate appraisal as last year we were raped by injuries. The midfield group were under huge pressure to cover holes everywhere.
Adams has put some serious muscle on and looks quite cut, Thomas I'll believe it when it happens and Greenwood is as hard as a cat's head - let's see how he goes about it if he gets a good run at it.
The main promise for me comes from an increase in depth with our delayed Christmas presents in Freeman and later Shazza getting opened.
Freeman has already shown he has some serious tools and is looking a goer from round 1 at this stage.
With a hopefully fully fit Cloke and Swan we should see an improvement there as well.
It all hinges on delivery into the forward line and the ability to stop other sides getting a run on really. |
Agree with the bolded bits. However making too precise a prediction is laden more with utter bloody hope than factual evidence on how things might play out. It's all part of the pre season fun I guess.. 
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droversdog65
Joined: 27 Nov 2014
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Lol @ ninthmond will be interesting to keep track of the mercenary up north and see if he becomes another 'untouchable'  |
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Pies2016
Joined: 12 Sep 2014
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Short term pain, long term gain.
Similar to swoop, the eveness and numbers in the mid field will drive these guys to get the best out of themselves. If you dont lift, we will just play someone who has. |
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jackcass 
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| Lazza wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | Not beyond the realms of possibility that improvement in both Thomas and Adams (among others), along with the recruitment of Greenwood, can offset the loss of Beams and Ball from the midfield group. We'll know by midseason how our 2015 midfield stacks up against the 2014 version. |
With all due respect Daz, at this time of the year, NOTHING regarding Collingwood is "beyond the realms of possibility" for you! Flag? Yep, no worriers!! Good positive attitude which I admire in you.
As for forlorners like me, I just hope we are more competitive against the real 4-5 top teams than we were last year. If this is the case, we might just sneak into the finals but I'm yet to be fully convinced.  |
Don't recall mentioning a flag in 2015 Laz.
I'm a long term fan of Thomas so can obviously foresee improvement in him (if he gets his body right) and while not totally convinced about Adams at the start of 2014, his play in the last couple of games gave great cause for optimism. Don't think either delivering on that promise in 2015 would be a shock, just a natural progression and therefore "not beyond the realms of possibility". It's really not a leap too far Laz. |
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Hiss 
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: Geelong
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| Woods wrote: | One swallow does not a summer make.
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The bird of black and white will deliver the golden prize.
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Darkstranger
Joined: 06 Jun 2012
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So to balance this out Mr Thread starter, who of our good players under performed last year can improve, Shaw, Dids, Thomas, Clement, Bucks they all leave one time or another, hence why someone else will pop up!
Maybe Cloke? Reid? Swan? Broomhead? Toovey? Freeman? Moore? Degoey? Kennedy? Karnezis? And many more! |
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melliot
Joined: 07 Apr 2006
Location: Bendigo
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Beams for all his good attributes, lacked a defensive side and got exposed often. If his replacement can provide decent defense, then it's not all bad. Not great, but not all bad.
The kids in our team now need to deliver the next flag. Not the 2010 team.
I fear some pain for this year. But we'll be better for it.
Can't expect Beams, Ball, Maxy, Harry to drop out for kids and expect a rise on the ladder. |
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The Weed
Joined: 07 Mar 2005
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| Darkstranger wrote: | So to balance this out Mr Thread starter, who of our good players under performed last year can improve, Shaw, Dids, Thomas, Clement, Bucks they all leave one time or another, hence why someone else will pop up!
Maybe Cloke? Reid? Swan? Broomhead? Toovey? Freeman? Moore? Degoey? Kennedy? Karnezis? And many more! |
Just playing Devil's advocate, no one has really stepped up since Shaw. Dids and Thomas have left and no one has filled Clements role like he did and I wiill leave do your own maths on Bucks's replacement(s). |
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Mossi 
Joined: 20 May 2002
Location: Vittorio Veneto TV Italy
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Weed, don't know about that, Elliot might ring a bell what about Langdon these two played some great footy in a somewhat lack luster season! Although we all have a list of who can step up, we won't know until the footy starts.
Name a pies player, that if he steps up another gear he would be on another planet? |
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Joined: 05 May 2010
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| Darkstranger wrote: | So to balance this out Mr Thread starter, who of our good players under performed last year can improve, Shaw, Dids, Thomas, Clement, Bucks they all leave one time or another, hence why someone else will pop up!
Maybe Cloke? Reid? Swan? Broomhead? Toovey? Freeman? Moore? Degoey? Kennedy? Karnezis? And many more! |
don't forget Mason cox. you cant write a list about our future without adding him to the list. And what about the other rookies?
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Joined: 05 May 2010
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| The Weed wrote: | | Darkstranger wrote: | So to balance this out Mr Thread starter, who of our good players under performed last year can improve, Shaw, Dids, Thomas, Clement, Bucks they all leave one time or another, hence why someone else will pop up!
Maybe Cloke? Reid? Swan? Broomhead? Toovey? Freeman? Moore? Degoey? Kennedy? Karnezis? And many more! |
Just playing Devil's advocate, no one has really stepped up since Shaw. Dids and Thomas have left and no one has filled Clements role like he did and I wiill leave do your own maths on Bucks's replacement(s). |
I thought Elliot announced his arrival as an elite player last year. No?
Langdon announced that he can play a bit. He has to watch the second year blues, but he is a shot to take another step towards being elite. I put Frost in that same category.
In my opinion, only Elliot has emerged since Steele Sidebottom as a truly Elite player. We have tonnes of players on the list with that potential however.
This is 2006/7 all over again. the question is whether last year or this year was 2006?????
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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| melliot wrote: | Beams for all his good attributes, lacked a defensive side and got exposed often. If his replacement can provide decent defense, then it's not all bad. Not great, but not all bad.
The kids in our team now need to deliver the next flag. Not the 2010 team.
I fear some pain for this year. But we'll be better for it.
Can't expect Beams, Ball, Maxy, Harry to drop out for kids and expect a rise on the ladder. |
Totally agree with you. Must be the water in Bendigo!
This is the point I have been trying to make to those who pick us to be top 4 this year. To each their own... 
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Warbler
Joined: 12 Mar 2003
Location: Tyaak Vic
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For mine Broomhead & maybe Freeman will be the name on every ones lips as the season progresses .
But we need an improvement in luck with injuries & the rest of the youngsters as well to make the season a success .
I can't wait for the footy to start - even if it is only the NAB cup .
GO PIES |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| Lazza wrote: | | melliot wrote: | Beams for all his good attributes, lacked a defensive side and got exposed often. If his replacement can provide decent defense, then it's not all bad. Not great, but not all bad.
The kids in our team now need to deliver the next flag. Not the 2010 team.
I fear some pain for this year. But we'll be better for it.
Can't expect Beams, Ball, Maxy, Harry to drop out for kids and expect a rise on the ladder. |
Totally agree with you. Must be the water in Bendigo!
This is the point I have been trying to make to those who pick us to be top 4 this year. To each their own... |
Might be a bit fetid in your area(s), fine in Kangaroo Flat. |
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Kwah-LeBaire
Joined: 15 Feb 2010
Location: Adelaide
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | F#ck him. |
Subtle, and to the point. Well said. |
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