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Tannin 
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PS: good answer, What'sinaname
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Wokko 
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| Pa Marmo wrote: | | Romans 1:22 |
Romans 2:1 |
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| Wokko wrote: | | Pa Marmo wrote: | | Romans 1:22 |
Romans 2:1 |
Romans 8:1 
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Collingwood 22:zip
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| think positive wrote: | | Collingwood 22:zip |
Collingwood 25:zip
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The gods are crazy!
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Pa Marmo
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| KenH wrote: | | The gods are crazy! |
good movie Ken
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| Pa Marmo wrote: | | KenH wrote: | | The gods are crazy! |
good movie Ken |
Good pick up Pa!
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Pa Marmo
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| swoop42 wrote: | I'm not religious, have no real interest in it and can't recall even basic teachings that probably took place sometime in my childhood schooling.
All I want to know is is there any actual real documented evidence that Jesus Christ the man (let alone the alleged Jesus Christ the son of God) even lived and existed?
And no Bible stories don't equate to proof for me. |
Clement, elder of Rome, letter to the Corinthian church (95 AD):
"The Apostles received the Gospel for us from the Lord Jesus Christ; Jesus Christ was sent forth from God. So then Christ is from God, and the Apostles are from Christ. Both therefore came of the will of God in the appointed order. Having therefore received a charge, and having been fully assured through the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ and confirmed in the word of God with full assurance of the Holy Ghost, they went forth with the glad tidings that the kingdom of God should come. So preaching everywhere in country and town, they appointed their firstfruits, when they had proved them by the Spirit, to be bishops and deacons unto them that should believe."
Ignatius, bishop of Antioch, letter to the Trallians (110-115 AD):
"Jesus Christ who was of the race of David, who was the Son of Mary, who was truly born and ate and drank, was truly persecuted under Pontius Pilate, was truly crucified and died in the sight of those in heaven and on earth and those under the earth; who moreover was truly raised from the dead, His Father having raised Him, who in the like fashion will so raise us also who believe on Him."
Ignatius, letter to the Smyrneans (110-115 AD):
"He is truly of the race of David according to the flesh, but Son of God by the Divine will and power, truly born of a virgin and baptised by John that all righteousness might be fulfilled by Him, truly nailed up in the flesh for our sakes under Pontius Pilate and Herod the tetrarch (of which fruit are we--that is, of his most blessed passion); that He might set up an ensign unto all ages through His resurrection."
"For I know and believe that He was in the flesh even after the resurrection; and when He came to Peter and his company, He said to them, 'Lay hold and handle me, and see that I am not a demon without body.' And straightway they touched him, and they believed, being joined unto His flesh and His blood. Wherefore also they despised death, nay they were found superior to death. And after His resurrection He ate with them and drank with them."
Ignatius, letter to the Magnesians (110-115 AD):
"Be ye fully persuaded concerning the birth and the passion and the resurrection, which took place in the time of the governorship of Pontius Pilate; for these things were truly and certainly done by Jesus Christ our hope."
Quadratus, to Emperor Hadrian about 125 AD:
"The deeds of our Saviour were always before you, for they were true miracles; those that were healed, those that were raised from the dead, who were seen, not only when healed and when raised, but were always present. They remained living a long time, not only whilst our Lord was on earth, but likewise when He had left the earth. So that some of them have also lived to our own times."
just to name a few
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HAL
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| That is reasonable. I believe there is one, yes. |
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| Pa Marmo wrote: | | KenH wrote: | | The gods are crazy! |
good movie Ken |
I got your PM Pa Marmo but the mods have restricted my ability to use Nicks fully and I cannot reply to any PM's.
Sorry, maybe you could take it up with Donny and David. |
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Pa Marmo
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| 1061 wrote: | | Pa Marmo wrote: | | KenH wrote: | | The gods are crazy! |
good movie Ken |
I got your PM Pa Marmo but the mods have restricted my ability to use Nicks fully and I cannot reply to any PM's.
Sorry, maybe you could take it up with Donny and David. |
Hmmmm, censorship, I've just sent you my email address.
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| Tannin wrote: | The book we nowadays call "The Bible" is impossible to put a single date on. It has been revised, added to, expurgated, modified, restored, and generally turned over many times in many different ways. I'd need to check my references for specific dates - no-one can hold so many different ones in memory! - but to paint with a broad brush, it's been largely stable since the end of the middle ages - say around 500 years ago - and the major revisions were mostly complete about a thousand years before that.
One thing to bear very much in mind here is that the date of a particular revision and the time when that revision became accepted as THE revision - i.e., part of "the Bible" as we think of it today - are often many years or even centuries apart. It is easy to say that "Revision X was largely complete in (e.g.) 325 AD", but quite misleading, as at that time the particular sect which compiled Revision X was typically one of several competing ones, and its actions seem much more important today than they did then simply because that particular sect later turned out to be the one which triumphed in the many, many wars and schisms which have characterised Christianity from the outset and which were especially prevalant in the first thousand years or so. The final shape of today's Bible, in other words, is as much a product of medieval wars and palace coups as it is of scholarly revision. (Rather like the rest of history, when you think about it.) |
So Tannin, tell me more about the Bible & literal interpretations.
Are literal interpretations of the Bible any different to literal interpretations of the Koran or of The Torah (bright)?
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