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Death Penalty
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:30 pm
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In a knee jerk response to the USA Thailand has passed a law allowing for the death penalty for human trafficking. Call it people smuggling or whatever but the same thing. This is largely to do with fishing boats but equally it will apply to the sex trade. So if a Thai citizen is caught having lured girls to Australia then confiscated the passports and set them to work in brothels (like that bitch in Canberra a few years ago) and they are raided by the AFP what happens? Do we send them back to face the death penalty or do we sentence them here and let them stay after the sentence is served because the Thais almost certainly will ignore the sentence imposed in Australia because that will be a different crime. The yanks are jacking off about Myanmar fishing crews but obviously happy to have death penalties reinstated. Colorado has brought back the firing squad in response to european drug firms denying drugs to those states using lethal injections.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:58 pm
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The yanks are jacking off about Myanmar fishing crews but obviously happy to have death penalties reinstated. Colorado has brought back the firing squad in response to european drug firms denying drugs to those states using lethal injections.


I read about that.

what's the option if they run out of bullets?

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stui magpie wrote:
ronrat wrote:
The yanks are jacking off about Myanmar fishing crews but obviously happy to have death penalties reinstated. Colorado has brought back the firing squad in response to european drug firms denying drugs to those states using lethal injections.


I read about that.

what's the option if they run out of bullets?


Rope or death by PTID or David posts

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Are you wearing your capnackwards too? Don't like that tapioca shit!
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I forgot what BOBA meant. Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:43 am
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Here's a classic case of a pointless execution: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-12/bangladesh-executes-islamist-leader-for-1971-war-crimes/6386318

Doing the arithmetic, it appears that this man was about 19 when he did the things for which he was hanged at age 63. It smacks to me of a political murder (that is, targeting modern-day political opponents), rather than "justice". I can't find any suggestion that this man was hiding out, so that he could only be "brought to justice" now - it rather appears that he's been a leader of an opposition political party for many years.
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 10:54 am
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I'm inclined to agree, but is this so different in principle to Nazi war criminals being hunted down (and occasionally executed) decades later for acts they may have committed at a similar age?

You may well take a similar view on that, but I'm interested in where you would draw the line. Should a statute of limitations occur in cases like these? Or is it just the punishment that concerns you?

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David wrote:
I'm inclined to agree, but is this so different in principle to Nazi war criminals being hunted down (and occasionally executed) decades later for acts they may have committed at a similar age?

You may well take a similar view on that, but I'm interested in where you would draw the line. Should a statute of limitations occur in cases like these? Or is it just the punishment that concerns you?

I think it's a lot different from the Nazi-hunting - they had to be hunted because they hid in Bolivia or took new identities or whatever, whereas this man was in full view of the authorities and it looks like it was his continuing political activity that led to his downfall. So far as I can see, he could have been "brought too justice" - if that's what they really wanted - any time in the last 40 years.

As for the Nazis more generally, I'm ambivalent about tracking down people in their dotage (anyone who was 20 in 1945 must now be 90) who - however heinous their particular atrocities - were only minor players in the grand scheme of things. But I stress that I'm ambivalent. On the other hand, there shouldn't be "limitations" on bringing people to justice for serious offences - if, for example, Hitler had managed to escape and hide until now, I would be a fervent supporter of bringing him to justice even at this late stage.

Of course, I oppose the death penalty in all circumstances - life imprisonment without the possibility of parole seems to me to be the punishment that should be reserved for such people. An expression of thorough disapprobation does not, I think, require judicial killing.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:29 am
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Of course you do?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:16 pm
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The guy who Killed the Teacher - He Deserves the Death Penalty
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What was the man wearing?
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:06 pm
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The Kid in the US in Boston Bomber got the Death Penalty and he Deserves it
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:37 pm
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think positive wrote:
stui magpie wrote:
ronrat wrote:
The yanks are jacking off about Myanmar fishing crews but obviously happy to have death penalties reinstated. Colorado has brought back the firing squad in response to european drug firms denying drugs to those states using lethal injections.


I read about that.

what's the option if they run out of bullets?


Rope or death by PTID or David posts

Surely cruel and unusual punishment under some human rights law!

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 11:21 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
The Kid in the US in Boston Bomber got the Death Penalty and he Deserves it


Very curious to see what the local "mercy" lobby (i.e. Tony Abbott, the News Limited tabloids and everyone else who suddenly discovered a profound personal aversion to the death penalty in the last couple of months) make of that. I'm expecting a deafening silence.

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