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David Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:22 am
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A friend on Facebook posed an interesting question:

How would you define the difference between sympathy and empathy? Is one better than the other?

This was my attempt to explain it:

Sympathy can have negative connotations—it's kind of like pity, and it's not always a pleasant feeling to be pitied—but I still think it's a positive thing. Far better to be able to feel sorry for someone than to not be able to, I say.

I see empathy as a step beyond sympathy. It's no longer about feeling sorry for someone; it's about identifying with them as a fellow human being—about recognising the essential similarities between you and them.

If sympathy were universal, the world would be a much kinder—if at times annoying and patronising—place. If empathy were universal, well, that'd just about be utopia.

What do you think?

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Lazza 



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:34 am
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The terms are mutually exclusive.

For example, you can sympathise with a person who has lost both their parents in a sudden accident but cannot empathise with them if both your parents are alive and you haven't experienced the sadness involved.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:43 am
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David wrote:
A friend on Facebook posed an interesting question:

How would you define the difference between sympathy and empathy? Is one better than the other?

This was my attempt to explain it:

Sympathy can have negative connotations—it's kind of like pity, and it's not always a pleasant feeling to be pitied—but I still think it's a positive thing. Far better to be able to feel sorry for someone than to not be able to, I say.

I see empathy as a step beyond sympathy. It's no longer about feeling sorry for someone; it's about identifying with them as a fellow human being—about recognising the essential similarities between you and them.

If sympathy were universal, the world would be a much kinder—if at times annoying and patronising—place. If empathy were universal, well, that'd just about be utopia.

What do you think?


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David Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:53 am
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So, you're saying you don't empathise with my situation?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:57 am
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No sympathy either.
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Tannin Capricorn

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:58 am
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David wrote:
How would you define the difference between sympathy and empathy?


By looking in a good dictionary. Next question please, this one is a dud.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:19 am
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I think I have too much of both, I seriously got enough for 10 men! (actually, that's not saying much, make that women!) my girl friend has zilch of either and she will tell you so, she just cant cope with anyone elses pain!! not even her kids. they go bang on the court, burst into tears, and its me who picks them up! we are a good team, she makes up for me over reacting.

my empathy allows me to see an old "drunk" and wonder what is causing their pain, my sympathy sees me burst into tears when they fall

I olny know one truly sympathetic male, and im sure hes gay.no, really.

my husband has empathy, he knows I hurt when Collingwood lose, but he doesn't care enough to have sympathy!!

hmm, im gunna have to do that mountain o ironing arnt I? Tannin, I need another appliance, one of those big presses maybe?

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:02 pm
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Tannin wrote:
David wrote:
How would you define the difference between sympathy and empathy?


By looking in a good dictionary. Next question please, this one is a dud.


What about my second question? Do you think they are inherently valuable? Do we need to do more to foster them in society? If you teach empathy, do you need to teach sympathy too? Etc.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:45 pm
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I thought empathy was supposed to be something you people were born with.
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:11 pm
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Lol at "you people". Laughing

I reckon it has to be learned.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:13 pm
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I am glad you find this funny. Has it really?
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Nick - Pie Man 



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:18 pm
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I certainly hope it is something that can be taught - not just for my benefit but for society as a whole.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:19 pm
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David wrote:
Lol at "you people". Laughing

I reckon it has to be learned.



OMG I have sympathy for you if you honestly believe that.
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think positive Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:28 pm
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David wrote:
Lol at "you people". Laughing

I reckon it has to be learned.


noi don't think so. I think it can be built on, but surely we all have it in us to think " there but for the grace of God go I"



except Nick.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:51 pm
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Nick - Pie Man wrote:
I thought empathy was supposed to be something you people were born with.



Correct! It is. It's in our DNA, one of the qualities which has made us an evolutionary success. It is an inherent part of our genetic makeup which, like most such abilities, can be and should be brought to fruition during our development, primarily during childhood, especially during early childhood. Those first few years are vital. The mother-child relationship is particularly important for it, though other relationships can at least partially substitute for it.

Can it be taught? Of course, and it is. Even the worst of humans usually has some vestigal trace of it, but if you haven't learned a decent dose of it by, say, the age of five, you will almost certainly never improve by more than a small amount. Some people do,but it's very rare.

Can it be taught in schools? Good luck with that.

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