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Damien 
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OK Hiss I'll bite. Ron Richards did play a 'few' games for the pies (just the 143) and officially coached the club in 2 games and was Reserves coach for a gazillion years. So we put Joffa in that class do we?
I don't think Joffa is a legend and I'm sure he would say the same.
Nice fella who loves the Pies like most of us here and clearly a good person.
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thompsoc
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Need a statue of Joffa outside the mcg or the westpac
centre.
Why?
Because it is the supporters who follow their tribe
to the nth degree that is just as important as any player or official.
Joffa is the recognised face of the Collingwood fc and the AFL.
Joffa is the opposite of the silver spoons and fair weather supporters
who litter the terraces of our footy stadiums.
I like things that are interesting and different and a statue would be a real
magnet for the people who have the faith.
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ronrat
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: Thailand
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| David wrote: | | Joffa wrote: | | especially those small-minded people who dont have the conviction to post comments using their real name. |
Hardly seems fair. It's not about lack of conviction; people (actually, the vast majority of people on internet fora, including Joffa's publisher!) just feel a little more comfortable posting under a pseudonym. Why judge them for it? |
For an arts student you have taken this wildly out of context David. He is referring to those who have a go at others and and particularly him and what he is saying if you want to anonymously have a go at someone it carries no weight if you don't name yourself. Plenty of people use a pseudonym to differentiate from their professional lives. Magpie Greg and Driver who were early supporters of the board are 2. It is the classic "Put your money where your mouth is". To judge a book or an author on one line in a book is somewhat drawing a short straw.
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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Top response Ronrat.
I'm just somewhat confused as to why you'd expect better from an arts student. It's not like they're actually smart or anything in general.  
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inxs88
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Enough oxygen and air time has been given to Joffa. What with the gold jacket "me time" tradition, channel 7/Foxtel cameras perched on his reactions weekly, Joffa "the movie" that got voted on SEN as the "worst movie ever" committed to celluloid and now a book??
Gee what next? A "reality show" aka like the Ozzy Ozbourne series??
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Hiss 
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: Geelong
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| inxs88 wrote: | Enough oxygen and air time has been given to Joffa. What with the gold jacket "me time" tradition, channel 7/Foxtel cameras perched on his reactions weekly, Joffa "the movie" that got voted on SEN as the "worst movie ever" committed to celluloid and now a book??
Gee what next? A "reality show" aka like the Ozzy Ozbourne series?? |
Well i am still waiting for DTM to tell me what he thinks a Club legend is? And why he feels Joffa is not one? I think DTM is a Nicks legend. He has been with us from the early years. A true fan committed to our Club. Excellent at game analysis and always has fantastic calls on Club issues. Mostly, I love that DTM can be controversial too.
So I think Joffa is a Legend too. Club heart and sole. He has been there when we have been down and when we had the up of the glory years. When I think of Collingwood I think of fans like Joffa.
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didick
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Why is the book launch in Carlton??? To stick it up them seems the only logical reason.
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think positive 
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| Hiss wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | Hiss wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | Darkstranger wrote: | | Seriously really? No thanks. |
I thought the same thing.
Nothing against him writing a book about his life and I dare say quite a few people would read it but Its something I pass on.
Though I hope good money is made for Epilepsy Australia |
Why would you pass on it? He is a great bloke and a Collingwood legend. Sure I don't agree with everything he says, but I do admire the bloke. It is a pitty the Club have tried to muzzle him and the Cheer squad. And now look. I hope the book deals with the wrecking of our great club passion at the games by the corporate spin doctors. It needs to tell all. I will be buying it and all for a good cause as well. |
I dare say he is a Okay Bloke but he is not even close to a Club Legend.
He is just a Supporter and IF he did not know Eddie. Then he be just like You and Me |
He is a Club Legend. On what basis do you deem someone a Club Legend? You don't have to necessarily have played to be a Club Legend. What about Ron Richards? Even Eddie? You don't think they are Club Legends? Gee at Footscray these days, you can be called a Club Legend if you take out Corporate Box Memberships. Lin Jong is already a Club Legend there. So I think Joffa qualifies after all the battles he has fought for our Club. |
Aside from that, in his job, he does so much for the underprivileged, and outside his job too. Look I've heard one not so nice story, but I prefer to go on what I've seen. I've seen him lambasted from pillar to post for just being a collingwood supporter, for his wild hair, for his gold jacket. Well I love that we have someone who stands out so well, a blue collar worker, who lives and breathes black and white, and I love that gold jacket. Personal experience, when my kids were younger, and we went to family day, and training, and even once when we just ran into him somewhere, he was always obliging for pics with the kids, always polite. When you see joffa, you think collingwood. Do I think bogan? $$%^%%$ oath, but I don't think every bogan is an arsewipe Bali binging drunken fool! Good on you joffa, never afraid to laugh at himself, stand up for those less Able to, than him, and the last one standing at a loss.
I think his book would be quite interesting.
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watt price tully 
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I don't know Joffa from a bar of soap.
He has done well for himself & good on him
He is a passionate Collingwood supporter & good on him.
He does a lot for others it seems & good on him.
He expresses his opinion & good on him.
But, he does need to give up smoking for his own health ( & others)
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MagpieMad 
One in, All in!!
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| ronrat wrote: | | David wrote: | | Joffa wrote: | | especially those small-minded people who dont have the conviction to post comments using their real name. |
Hardly seems fair. It's not about lack of conviction; people (actually, the vast majority of people on internet fora, including Joffa's publisher!) just feel a little more comfortable posting under a pseudonym. Why judge them for it? |
For an arts student you have taken this wildly out of context David. He is referring to those who have a go at others and and particularly him and what he is saying if you want to anonymously have a go at someone it carries no weight if you don't name yourself. Plenty of people use a pseudonym to differentiate from their professional lives. Magpie Greg and Driver who were early supporters of the board are 2. It is the classic "Put your money where your mouth is". To judge a book or an author on one line in a book is somewhat drawing a short straw. |
go back, search for the thread about it, somewhere between 10 and 15 years ago, and if I recall correctly he was adamant everyone should use their real name, because "he did".
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Sly
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On the location, we've had to choose according to space and availibiility.
Re the using of real names, I'm not privy to conversations from years and years ago, but knowing Joffa (and him always addressing me as 'Sly' -- obviously not my real name -- and never having a problem with it), I think Ronrat's interpretation is correct.
Finally, on Joffa's profile, I've spoken to the head of the Epilepsy Foundation, the director of the Sons of the West mental health program, amongst others, and they all agree he uses the profile not for self-aggrandisement, but for charitable purposes (for which he receives no remuneration).
If you think he's nothing but an egomaniac, then you really don't know him. Ego's the last thing you can associate with him given the countless hours of volunteer work he does for any number of causes, (and those people I've mentioned above can't speak highly enough of him). |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
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| ronrat wrote: | | David wrote: | | Joffa wrote: | | especially those small-minded people who dont have the conviction to post comments using their real name. |
Hardly seems fair. It's not about lack of conviction; people (actually, the vast majority of people on internet fora, including Joffa's publisher!) just feel a little more comfortable posting under a pseudonym. Why judge them for it? |
For an arts student you have taken this wildly out of context David. He is referring to those who have a go at others and and particularly him and what he is saying if you want to anonymously have a go at someone it carries no weight if you don't name yourself. Plenty of people use a pseudonym to differentiate from their professional lives. Magpie Greg and Driver who were early supporters of the board are 2. It is the classic "Put your money where your mouth is". To judge a book or an author on one line in a book is somewhat drawing a short straw. |
Not judging the book at all, just responding to the remark that Sly quoted. Frankly, I find the argument about real names a bit petty, but I guess I can make that case when I write my own autobiography.
Oh, and I'm not an arts student. But David is my real name.
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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And my comment about Arts students wasn't aimed at you, you actually are smart. ish. Sometimes.
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ronrat
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| David wrote: | Not judging the book at all, just responding to the remark that Sly quoted. Frankly, I find the argument about real names a bit petty, but I guess I can make that case when I write my own autobiography.
Oh, and I'm not an arts student. But David is my real name. |
Oh but you were, or at least alluded to be. If you were not I apologise. I was a Rat once. but my real name is Ron. If you judged a porno film by the dialogue you wouldn't watch it. (Stui Magpie, Help)If you wrote a book based on that premise you will fail. "write my own autobiography "is a tautology.And the subject will be boring if you include internet names.. Take a leaf of Think Positive who uses her nickname to reflect her personality, and for the greater good.
And I have met Joffa. I wouldn't call him a friend, or vice versa, but he does love the club, his family and finally where he is. But he will have the time to talk to kids, the Pies fans and in fact all football supporters.
All I am saying, is give joff a chance.
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Piesnchess
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Joffa is a hell of a nice guy, but even he, humble chap that he is, would not consider himself a club legend, theres no way he would think of himself in that exalted company, he is a very high profile Magpies fan, very passionate, and that's it.
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