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Culprit Cancer



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:24 pm
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Won't be here Election weekend and have done a postal vote. I hear there was a debate between Penis Napthine and Danny Andrews? Oh it was on Sky lol And we wonder why nutters get seats in Parliament.
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:31 pm
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Saw an interview with Daniel Andrews on ABC 24 today and have to say I wasn't very impressed (he had Shorten next to him and managed to look average in comparison, which is saying something!).

Still, you have to take what you get I suppose.

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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:39 pm
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David wrote:
Saw an interview with Daniel Andrews on ABC 24 today and have to say I wasn't very impressed (he had Shorten next to him and managed to look average in comparison, which is saying something!).


Perfectly summed up
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:59 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
David wrote:
Saw an interview with Daniel Andrews on ABC 24 today and have to say I wasn't very impressed (he had Shorten next to him and managed to look average in comparison, which is saying something!).


Perfectly summed up


But compared to mumbles and the town idiot they look like genuine contenders.

What a sad state this Country is in.
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watt price tully Scorpio



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:20 pm
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1061 wrote:
stui magpie wrote:
David wrote:
Saw an interview with Daniel Andrews on ABC 24 today and have to say I wasn't very impressed (he had Shorten next to him and managed to look average in comparison, which is saying something!).


Perfectly summed up


But compared to mumbles and the town idiot they look like genuine contenders.

What a sad state this Country is in.


What a sad country this state is in.

The cuts to services including mental health is simply appalling.

The de-funding of NGO's who try to assist our most needy is a state & national disgrace.

The privatisation of aged psycho-geriatric services as well as the way they have changed funding models has reduced flexibility in service delivery which severely impacts on those in need but fits ideological criteria.

I really do hope those who have made these decisions do get run over by the proverbial truck such is the contempt & disregard this ideological government has to those less well off.

I work it, I see it.

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:07 am
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One reason I'm considering putting the Sex Party first in the upper house:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-23/candidate-stood-down-over-involvement-in-porn-star-tour/5911876

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But the Australian Sex Party, which has a number of candidates contesting the Victorian election, criticised the sacking.

"Do we have to remind Liberal and Labor parties that sex workers are not people to be ashamed of?", it said on Twitter.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:16 pm
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David wrote:
One reason I'm considering putting the Sex Party first in the upper house:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-23/candidate-stood-down-over-involvement-in-porn-star-tour/5911876

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But the Australian Sex Party, which has a number of candidates contesting the Victorian election, criticised the sacking.

"Do we have to remind Liberal and Labor parties that sex workers are not people to be ashamed of?", it said on Twitter.


The irony is there are probably more Sunny Leone DVDs in Thomastown than liberal voters. And more supporters as well. The ASP is fighting for those things we should have but the religious nuts tell us otherwise. And the main parties tow the line. Voluntary euthanasia, decriminalisation of matijuana, internet freedom etc. All stuff the pollies talk about but when it comes to the crunch they hide behind conscience votes or the Federal Govt overides the States. For sanity sakes do not hand the Family First a balance of power.

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Member 7167 Leo

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:31 pm
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For 38 of the last 44 years the seat of Bentleigh (the electorate I reside in) has gone the way of the elected government. Recent indicators are that it will go to the Libs. The fat lady has not sung yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:56 pm
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Member 7167 wrote:
For 38 of the last 44 years the seat of Bentleigh (the electorate I reside in) has gone the way of the elected government. Recent indicators are that it will go to the Libs. The fat lady has not sung yet.


That is true indeed. Your local member is not that fat I would have thought.

The election is going to be very close indeed.

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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:03 pm
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There may be a possibility of a joke about Member's member, there - but I couldn't imagine making it.
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Jezza Taurus

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:07 pm
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The latest polling conducted by Roy Morgan Research. I didn't realise that the Greens nearly had a 20% primary vote! Shocked

http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/5939-victorian-voting-intention-november-21-2014-201411210056

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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:30 pm
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^

The only Poll I believe is the one that counts, the one on election day.
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Tannin Capricorn

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:44 pm
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Jezza wrote:
The latest polling conducted by Roy Morgan Research. I didn't realise that the Greens nearly had a 20% primary vote! Shocked


Or possibly you meant that they had nearly a 20% primary vote. Smile

Chuckle aside, is that so surprising? The Ted and Denis Show has got right up the public nose - a markedly unpopular government for a long time now with little good to be said for it - and although Dan Andrews seems vaguey decent enough in a lack-lustre sort of way, most people remember all too well the arrogance and bad decision making of the Brumby Labor government only three or four years ago and many might think it's too soon to put that lot in again.

So yes, in the end people will vote Labor because it's less worse than Liberal, but a hell of a lot of then will give the Greens a go, and you only need another few protest voters and disillusioned Laborals to hit that 20% - the Greens typically get something close to 15% in most elections, so 20% isn't all that different.

I reckon we will also see a huge vote for the various other non-Laboral parties, from the Shooters and Rednecks through the Sex Party and Palmer's Self-destruct Party right over to the racist religious right weirdos.

In the lower house, a modest but clear victory for Labor is likely, possibly with two or three Greens in the trendy city seats. A Green balance of power is of course possible, but I reckon Labor will manage a small absolute majority.

In the upper house, we should see some very interesting results. I expect about 5 Greens, 8 isn't out of the question, and wouldn't be at all surprised to see some representatives of the wacky right - Palmer, Family First, DLP, Rise Up, who can say? (What am I saying? If Palmer is the "wacky right", what does that make the Liberals? Oh well.

It could be an interesting keep-the-bastards-honest Legislative Council this time around, with something like (say) 16 Libs and Nats, 15 Labor, half-a-dozen Greens, and a couple of odd-bods.

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Wokko Pisces

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:50 pm
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The wacky right needs somewhere to consolidate and park its votes, much like the wacky left have the Greens (who seem to have swallowed every other wacky left party). I did however get a voting pamphlet from the Socialists, but I don't think they're anything more than a novelty vote for Uni kids.
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Tannin Capricorn

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:00 pm
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Fair comment, though there are at least three groups in the "wacky right". There are the crypto-fascist closet racist types (Rise Up and friends); there are the extreme religious kooks (Family First, Australian Christians); and there are the old-fashioned nuke-everything country rednecks (Shooters and Wankers, Country Alliance).

I haven't included your mob in that group 'coz (a) they are too small to count - the senator from NSW was just an accidental product of design errors in the voting system, same as Ricky Muir here in Vic - and (b) because they are weird and right-wing and a bit wacky but - unlike those others mentioned above - not actually stupid or impractical.

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