ISIS
Users browsing this topic:0 Registered, 0 Hidden and 0 Guests
Registered Users: None |
 |
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Location: Between London and Melbourne
|
| Post subject: |  |
|
^ agreed. It was a very good read, but it doesn't really take us far beyond what we know : That Sharia law is rooted in the Koran, and the Koran, formed as it was in a time of war under exteremly harsh conditions, has many inflammatory passages used to justify militancy. Nice professors in American universities might want a debate about the need to historicize Sharia, but in the Middle East and Pakistan that's not really cutting much ice, and it is from those countries that the cultural imperialism and aspirations of Islam are being defined, and the murder flows.
_________________
Two more flags before I die! |
|
|
|
 |
pietillidie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Mugwump wrote: | | ^ agreed. It was a very good read, but it doesn't really take us far beyond what we know : That Sharia law is rooted in the Koran, and the Koran, formed as it was in a time of war under exteremly harsh conditions, has many inflammatory passages used to justify militancy. Nice professors in American universities might want a debate about the need to historicize Sharia, but in the Middle East and Pakistan that's not really cutting much ice, and it is from those countries that the cultural imperialism and aspirations of Islam are being defined, and the murder flows. |
That was a good article, TP. Nice find.
Mugwump, I honestly have no idea what you're saying there; what is not cutting much ice in the ME and Pakistan and how the heck would you know anyhow? 
_________________
In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
Help Nick's: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/fundraising.htm |
|
|
|
|
Morrigu 
Joined: 11 Aug 2001
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| pietillidie wrote: | | That was a good article, TP. Nice find. |
Well there you go then I finally post something you don't hate and is reasonably interesting to you and still I get no credit - b*stard  
_________________
“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” |
|
|
|
|
Skids 
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
|
|
|
|
|
HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Oh a web page. |
|
|
|
|
pietillidie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Morrigu wrote: | | pietillidie wrote: | | That was a good article, TP. Nice find. |
Well there you go then I finally post something you don't hate and is reasonably interesting to you and still I get no credit - b*stard |
Haha - good article  TP was probably thinking: "That ba%&ard owes me, anyhow!"
_________________
In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
Help Nick's: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/fundraising.htm |
|
|
|
|
think positive 
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Location: somewhere
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Bugger, was nt really me!
_________________
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
|
|
|
|
Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
|
| Post subject: | |
|
ISIS 'left on brink of defeat' by Russian bomb attacks with only 34 bases left
China has also joined the war against ISIS after it claimed to have killed Beijing man Fan Jinghui, 50, alongside Norwegian national Ole Johan Grimsgaard-Ofstad, 48, who were feared to have been taken hostage in September.
Chinese President Xi Jinping: "China will strengthen cooperation with the international community, resolutely crack down on violent terrorist operations that devastate innocent lives and safeguard world peace and security."
He also called on the relevant departments to boost security work "outside China's borders".
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/isis-left-on-brink-of-defeat-by-russian-bomb-attacks-with-only-34-bases-left/ar-BBnoOcI?li=AAavLaF&ocid=sl5mdhp
_________________
Don't count the days, make the days count. |
|
|
|
|
David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
Location: Andromeda
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| MSN news wrote: | | 600 extremists were destroyed |
Why not say 'killed'? A bit unpalatable to acknowledge that these are human beings?
Not saying it's wrong to bomb ISIS targets, necessarily. I just think it'd be nice if such events could be reported honestly without the need to reach for euphemism just so we can tell ourselves we're the good guys.
_________________
All watched over by machines of loving grace |
|
|
|
|
stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto
|
| Post subject: | |
|
How about "600 delusional arsewipes were converted to organic fertiliser"
_________________
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
|
|
|
|
Jezza 
2023 PREMIERS!
Joined: 06 Sep 2010
Location: Ponsford End
|
|
|
|
|
Morrigu
Joined: 11 Aug 2001
|
| Post subject: | |
|
^ so sad beautiful young so young girls .........
_________________
“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” |
|
|
|
|
Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Over the course of four minutes and fourteen seconds, ISIS literally threatens every country on the face of the earth, shows pictures of its fighters grinning and horsing around like something out of a Gap ad, calls Bill Clinton a "fornicator", runs down the statistics on verteran suicide rates in America, brands Russia and France a "coalition of devils", says the US is too weak to put boots on the ground, speaks out against racism, and tells the US, Russia, France, and "all of you" to "bring it on."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3333470/ISIS-taunt-America-new-video-urging-bring-vow-bring-fire-enemies-80-banners-raised-against-mock-soldier-suicides.html
This mob really need to taste some force. 
C'mon David, tell me about my islamophobia, how there's only a few nut jobs out there and all your other apologist rhetoric.
_________________
Don't count the days, make the days count. |
|
|
|
|
David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
Location: Andromeda
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Are you saying that because you realise that ISIS represents a tiny percentage of the Muslim world (and is also 'at war' with most Muslims), or because you don't?
Do you know the difference between Sunni and Shia Islam, and what ISIS think of Shiites?
Do you know how many Sunni Muslims have been killed by ISIS for not following their particular brand of Islam?
Do you know how many Sunni-dominated countries are currently fighting against ISIS?
I'm not going to hold your hand through this. If your problem is with reality, do your own research and leave me out of it.
_________________
All watched over by machines of loving grace |
|
|
|
|
David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
Location: Andromeda
|
| Post subject: | |
|
For those underestimating the extent of sectarian conflict within the Islamic militant world, let alone the Muslim world as a whole, this is from June:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/30/islamic-state-threatens-hamas-gaza-strip
| Quote: | | We will uproot the state of the Jews [Israel] and you and Fatah, and all of the secularists are nothing and you will be overrun by our creeping multitudes, said a maskedIslamic Statemember in the message addressed to the tyrants of Hamas. |
ISIS on the Muslim Brotherhood:
http://shoebat.com/2014/08/23/isis-declares-war-hamas-muslim-brotherhood/
| Quote: | | [The Brotherhood] seeks to support the religion in terms of the Social Contract theory and is resorting to the ordinances and other exaggerations from the trash bin of ideas. Whoever does this is someone who claims to support the religion while they practice witchcraft. |
ISIS vs the Taliban:
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/taliban-vs-isis-the-islamic-state-doomed-afghanistan-13153
And the list goes on.
If ISIS can't handle even the slightest deviation from its theological or political positions, how do you think they're possibly going to capture the hearts and minds of the Muslim world? Their numbers speak for themselves.
ISIS members and co-conspirators (both inside and outside Iraq/Syria): 52,600257,900
Global Muslim population: 1,570,000,000
Even if we take the maximum estimate, that's a grand total of 0.015%.
To put that into perspective, there are 234,000 convicted child molesters in America out of a total population of 318 million. That means that 0.073% of Americans are convicted child molesters.
An American is five times more likely to be a child molester than a Muslim is to be a member or co-conspirator of ISIS.
Should we be letting Americans into this country?
_________________
All watched over by machines of loving grace |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum
|
|
The Rules
FAQ
Usergroups
Calendar
Search
Log in
Register
