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David 
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| think positive wrote: | | Life has rules for a reason, it makes the world tick better. |
Monogamy isn't a "life" rule, though. There's no basic law stating that we have to only have sex with the person we marry, or that we cannot have another serious relationship at the same time. That's just a cultural rule, specific to our place and time. Cultural rules change all the time; think back to your childhood when homosexual relationships were illegal and generally considered to be immoral. Things can change so quickly.
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| David wrote: | | think positive wrote: | | Life has rules for a reason, it makes the world tick better. |
Monogamy isn't a "life" rule, though. There's no basic law stating that we have to only have sex with the person we marry, or that we cannot have another serious relationship at the same time. That's just a cultural rule, specific to our place and time. Cultural rules change all the time; think back to your childhood when homosexual relationships were illegal and generally considered to be immoral. Things can change so quickly. |
No it's not, but this share it around thing, I'm sorry, it's not good for the kids, and yes sometimes you do have to "think of the children!"
Plenty of time for that before and later on, but gees gives the kids a nice stable upbringing.
Funny, you keep bringing gay couples into it, as if it's a similar thing, and yet gay couples, quite rightly, are campaigning world wide to get married and show their devotion to one other person!
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David
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As a general rule, I think the best thing for children is, essentially, happy, fulfilled parents. Parents who feel miserable, unsatisfied or trapped are much more likely to mistreat or neglect their children, I'd imagine. Sometimes self-sacrifice can actually be counterproductive.
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| David wrote: | | As a general rule, I think the best thing for children is, essentially, happy, fulfilled parents. Parents who feel miserable, unsatisfied or trapped are much more likely to mistreat or neglect their children, I'd imagine. Sometimes self-sacrifice can actually be counterproductive. |
Now you've gone to far,
How the **** would the wine makers survive?
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| think positive wrote: | | I'm glad I chose to give my kids a better role model. |
How can you be so definitively sure of yourself?
Only a couple of months ago your own daughter had to pull you up about your attitude toward a certain Netball player did she not? |
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| 1061 wrote: | | think positive wrote: | | I'm glad I chose to give my kids a better role model. |
How can you be so definitively sure of yourself?
Only a couple of months ago your own daughter had to pull you up about your attitude toward a certain Netball player did she not? |
actually we were in agreement that we really were not sure what the answer should be, hence my question in the first place.
but since you must bring it up again, (is she your sister?) do you think she'd be into it??
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Wokko 
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| 1061 wrote: | | think positive wrote: | | I'm glad I chose to give my kids a better role model. |
How can you be so definitively sure of yourself?
Only a couple of months ago your own daughter had to pull you up about your attitude toward a certain Netball player did she not? |
Nobody is perfect, but raising children while mum bangs everyone in the neighbourhood, or has to explain why Dad is a member of a Cadre of lovers is going to mess with a kids head. Being confused about a social issue doesn't even come close to the problems this kind of 'lifestyle' would cause to offspring.
Children who have to deal with step parents or their parent's lovers when they divorce is bad enough, I can't begin to imagine the psychological head **** of dealing with it when they're still "together".
What I can see this isn't polyamoury, it's polysexualism. There is no love involved, it is selfish hedonism from those who can easily get multiple sexual partners or reluctant submission from the partner with less power. The conceit and ego involved or the sad submissive desperation must be off the charts.
Even if no children are involved I still don't see this as a healthy norm or a positive for society in any way, but I understand some people have certain fetishes or kinks that they want to indulge in. So be it, but don't try and create some new social order based around sexual deviancy thank you very much. |
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David
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| Wokko wrote: | | What I can see this isn't polyamoury, it's polysexualism. There is no love involved, it is selfish hedonism |
That's your presumption, once again probably emerging from little in the way of personal experience. How can you deign to tell these people (most of whom you've probably never met, let alone talked to about their personal lives) whether their love is real or not?
You talk about step parents and infidelities being difficult for children, but the fact is that that's practically the norm in our society nowadays. Successful long-term marriages are getting rarer. I can't say whether it'd be difficult for a child to accept their parents having multiple partners; my experience is that children generally accept their own upbringing, however weird it may seem to outsiders, as normal.
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One husband is more than enough - ta very much!  
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| Morrigu wrote: | | One husband is more than enough - ta very much! |
I think they'd probably be in favour of it... Imagine, only having to put the bins out once every two weeks !
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stui magpie 
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I'd happily take several wives.
As long as they were all hot and I didn't have to actually live with any of them.
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| David wrote: | | think positive wrote: | | Life has rules for a reason, it makes the world tick better. |
Monogamy isn't a "life" rule, though. There's no basic law stating that we have to only have sex with the person we marry, or that we cannot have another serious relationship at the same time. That's just a cultural rule, specific to our place and time. Cultural rules change all the time; think back to your childhood when homosexual relationships were illegal and generally considered to be immoral. Things can change so quickly. |
now that your a dad has your view altered at all?
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David
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Not at all! Still very much in favour of people going down this route if they feel it's right for them, and still something we're actively considering too.
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| David wrote: | | Not at all! Still very much in favour of people going down this root if they feel it's right for them, and still something we're actively considering too. |
fixed!!
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stui magpie
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