Collingwood's correct weight division

[Harrysz]

Collingwood has some really good footballers:
Elite - Pendlebury, Swan, Sidebottom, Cloke.
Exciting young players - Elliott, Williams, Adams, Crisp, Broomhead
Future stars - Moore, De Goey, Grundy
Solid Soldiers - Brown, Frost, Toovey, Blair, Greenwood.
Possible future stars - Maynard, Oxley, Marsh.
I haven't mentioned Reid, Scharenberg, or Freeman because their future is uncertain.
So, with a core like this, where should this team be positioned on the ladder bearing in mind that compared to other years, there've been few injuries?
As a humble supporter who doesn't really understand the technical structures of how the game should be played today, I think that Collingwood should be somewhere between 5th and 8th.
Collingwood has won one of its past nine games, and that was against Carlton, who are on the bottom.
Collingwood is not a premiership team or anywhere near it, but even 12th on the ladder looks flattering at present. Whatever is holding us back, should be fixed. Otherwise bringing in Treloar, or Aish or anyone else will make little difference.

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

I don't see the point you are making. The only reward in AFL footy is a premiership. You don't even win that by finishing first at the end of the season. The only other reward is finishing last because you get first first pick in the national draft. If the AFL was serious about the competition there would a relegation system, prize for finishing first at the end of the home and away and a knockout competition for all the competing clubs and an equivalent prize to the side finishing first. Till that happens ladder position is meaningless. The mindset of each AFL club is just win every game you can and enjoy each victory.

[Dangles]

There's more than one thing holding us back. But one of the main things, as any Collingwood supporter will tell ya, is our poor kicking. So the question is: In terms of kicking efficiency who are our five worst players? In regards to players who are looking to leave their clubs: Which ones have the best kicking efficiency?

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[Bob Sugar]

We have a few problems, Cloke's form is killing us, if it's ok to drop Jesse then it should be ok to drop Cloke.

Our rucks are hurting us, neither of them provide a viable marking option, both will become good players but they're a couple of years off IMO.

Our backline lacks skills, all are tough and honest but we turn the ball over far to often coming out of defense.

Our game plan isn't suited to dry weather football IMO, it works in the wet but get get shown up on fast tracks, I honesly think we have to review the press.

Age profile of the list, future is bright but we don't have enough middle aged players IMO.


I've been harping on about this for ages, IMO our biggest need is a classy halfback, ideally 2 of them, and yes I know Shazza should be a classy HB in the future (providing he stays) but we're still 2 short IMO, we won't win a flag with Sinclair-Toovey-Marsh-Frost-Brown in the same back line, all of those boys are ordinary disposers.

[Darkstranger]

Look over Clokes footy career so far, with the exception if 2010 & 2011 it's been pretty much like this year. He is 29 next year and not going to get better

What you see is what it will be until the slow painful death of his footy life.

[Bob Sugar]

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[Pies4shaw]

^^^ I think they actually wanted to play Ramsay, Keeffe and Scharenberg as three of that four but, for various reasons, mostly couldn't.

[courtza]

I think our list is overrated, Pendlebury and Swan to a degree are our only elite players. Cloke is not elite and I dont think Sidey is either.
Richmonds list is better than ours, Id go as far as to say we have one of the worst lists in the comp.
Our list is based on future potential not current. Teenagers and early twenties players dont stand up against mature lists unless they are truly elite.
The entire top eight have mature lists with a sprinkle of youth with the Bullies being the exception.
We might have a good list but its years away.

[RudeBoy]