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AN_Inkling
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | MOTR wrote: | | This bloke will surely go in the first few picks. What would it cost us to trade up into the pointy end of the draft? |
We don't need to trade up to get him. If we think he's worth our first pick, which will be pick 8, then we get him, even if he is considered the number 1 pick by another club. All we have to decide is whether we think we can get a better player at pick 8 than him. If we pass on him at pick 8 because we rate someone else better, then all we can hope is that no-one else picks him in the first round. If he is overlooked in the first round we can then snare him with our 2nd pick. |
There won't be any hoping. It will all be decided at the bidding. If someone bids before 8 and we decide to pass, then they have to take him. If no one bids before 8 then we wait for someone to bid and match that with our second round pick.
The article says that we're not showing our hand. Which of course we wouldn't, that would be the dumbest move possible. But if we didn't pick him at 8 I'd be shocked. Moore will be the best tall available at that point in the draft and we do need a young KPP.
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swoop42 
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Joined: 02 Aug 2008
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | MOTR wrote: | | This bloke will surely go in the first few picks. What would it cost us to trade up into the pointy end of the draft? |
We don't need to trade up to get him. If we think he's worth our first pick, which will be pick 8, then we get him, even if he is considered the number 1 pick by another club. All we have to decide is whether we think we can get a better player at pick 8 than him. If we pass on him at pick 8 because we rate someone else better, then all we can hope is that no-one else picks him in the first round. If he is overlooked in the first round we can then snare him with our 2nd pick. |
Only those clubs with a first round selection before ours matters.
We'll nominate Moore but unless a team with a selection ranked 1 through 7 bids we wont have to use pick 8 on him.
Richmond or Adelaide for example could bid there first rounder and it would mean diddly squat as we can just use our next pick which would be in the second round.
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swoop42
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | ^^There won't be any hoping. It will all be decided at the bidding. If someone bids before 8 and we decide to pass, then they have to take him. If no one bids before 8 then we wait for someone to bid and match that with our second round pick.
The article says that we're not showing our hand. Which of course we wouldn't, that would be the dumbest move possible. But if we didn't pick him at 8 I'd be shocked. Moore will be the best tall available at that point in the draft and we do need a young KPP. |
So if a club like the scum did bid pick 6 on him and we decided to pass would that mean on draft day no clubs with picks 1 to 5 would be able to have a change of heart and draft him before there pick 6?
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| swoop42 wrote: | | AN_Inkling wrote: | ^^There won't be any hoping. It will all be decided at the bidding. If someone bids before 8 and we decide to pass, then they have to take him. If no one bids before 8 then we wait for someone to bid and match that with our second round pick.
The article says that we're not showing our hand. Which of course we wouldn't, that would be the dumbest move possible. But if we didn't pick him at 8 I'd be shocked. Moore will be the best tall available at that point in the draft and we do need a young KPP. |
So if a club like the scum did bid pick 6 on him and we decided to pass would that mean on draft day no clubs with picks 1 to 5 would be able to have a change of heart and draft him before there pick 6? |
No. Its a bidding system. Highest bidder not only wins if we pass but they get him whether they want him or not.
Everyone knows we'll use our first pick on him. No brainer.
Games are silly at this point. We are just going through the motions with our gageyness. I think we know we are using pick 8 on him.
The interesting question is this. If we did end up top 4 do you think the afloat would have changed the rules this year instead of next
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Neil Appleby 
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Or you can use Chrome instead of your usual browser. In Chrome, you can download an 'add on' that bypasses the Age blocking mechanism. Works a treat.
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | MOTR wrote: | | This bloke will surely go in the first few picks. What would it cost us to trade up into the pointy end of the draft? |
We don't need to trade up to get him. If we think he's worth our first pick, which will be pick 8, then we get him, even if he is considered the number 1 pick by another club. All we have to decide is whether we think we can get a better player at pick 8 than him. If we pass on him at pick 8 because we rate someone else better, then all we can hope is that no-one else picks him in the first round. If he is overlooked in the first round we can then snare him with our 2nd pick. |
There won't be any hoping. It will all be decided at the bidding. If someone bids before 8 and we decide to pass, then they have to take him. If no one bids before 8 then we wait for someone to bid and match that with our second round pick.
The article says that we're not showing our hand. Which of course we wouldn't, that would be the dumbest move possible. But if we didn't pick him at 8 I'd be shocked. Moore will be the best tall available at that point in the draft and we do need a young KPP. |
right, it all happens pre-draft.
we kinda have to tip our hand a little, right? We have to nominate him as F/s. Then we wait to see where the bids come in and accept or reject him.
I can see no circumstance where we dont use pick 8 on him (as Nth did with Mcdonald last year).
I think we should do all that we can to get another top 20 pick to go with him. We should be doing all we can to be looking the goods in 2016! that really is our first legit shot at it and i think in 2016 - Haw/Geel/Syd/Freo will be sliding so we will have our chances against the likes of Nth/Port/GC/WB/GWS!
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Neil Appleby
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| Neil Appleby wrote: | | Or you can use Chrome instead of your usual browser. In Chrome, you can download an 'add on' that bypasses the Age blocking mechanism. Works a treat. |
I just checked that, it's actually a Chrome extension called The Age Paywall Bypass.
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Brenny
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| Neil Appleby wrote: | | Neil Appleby wrote: | | Or you can use Chrome instead of your usual browser. In Chrome, you can download an 'add on' that bypasses the Age blocking mechanism. Works a treat. |
I just checked that, it's actually a Chrome extension called The Age Paywall Bypass. |
I'm trying to figure out if I'm stupid to google that! 
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Simply just disable cookies from The Age website in any browser... No need for any add-on.
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Neil Appleby
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| The Seedsmeister wrote: | | Simply just disable cookies from The Age website in any browser... No need for any add-on. |
Is that right?
Does this work for the Hun & Australian too?
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Neil Appleby
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I tried disabling cookies in Chrome and it had the result of not opening anything in the Herald Sun site or The Australian, so that doesn't work for me.
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Brenny
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| ^ They're a bit different. They work on a login system where as The Age works on a 'you have read x articles, now login'. |
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GoWoodsmen
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People... allow me to put my propeller hat on for a moment....
OK ready to go.
You wanna read the HS stories... go to news.com.au
You wanna read the Age articles don't worry about disabling cookies, just right click on the link and select (in Chrome) "Open link in Incognito Window"
That oughta do the job!
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Dave The Man 
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Was interesting but that was all just her Opinion and nothing more.
The one Jon Ralph said had actual Comments from Peter Moore
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