Global cooling - the real danger

[thebaldfacts]

Interesting articles.

Guess the science is not as settled as some believe.



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/were-illprepared-if-the-iceman-cometh/story-e6frg6zo-1227023489894

http://www.co2science.org/articles/V17/N32/C1.php

[stui magpie]

I'm planning on being dead well before the end of this century so whichever way it spins won't bother me.

[Tannin]

Clueless denialism is the real threat here.

Only The Australian would be so desperate as to publish such obvious nonsense. Not only is the author completely unqualified to write about climate, he comes from an extreme right-wing society of elderly nut-cases, practically none of them with any relevant training or expertise, with very, very strong links to the far right, big business, and the IPA, and he has prior form.

I'll come back and provide more detail, complete with links so you can verify all this for yourselves, a bit later on tonight when I get time.

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The author, David Archibald is not a climate scientist and has no training or qualifications in the field. He is a former businessman and geologist with a background in the fossil fuel industry. He now owns the rights to substantial fossil fuel exploration permits in Western Australia which will decline in value as the world switches to renewables. He is strongly linked with the Australian denialist organisation founded by Hugh Morgan (Western Mining) and others associated with big business and the mining industry. He also has strong links with the well-funded notorious American denialist organisation the Heartland Institute, which works actively to promote the denial of both climate change and the link between smoking and lung cancer.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04/14/meet-david-archibald-the-fringe-scientist-predi/198886

He was the author of something once called "the worst climate science paper ever of all time anywhere" - see: http://n3xus6.blogspot.com.au/2007/02/dd.html (I suspect that there are even worse ones somewhere, but I won't debate the point.)

For a more detailed and technical deconstruction of his work, see: http://www.skepticalscience.com/david-archibald-exaggerates-solar-influence-on-future-climate-change.html See also: http://denierlist.wordpress.com/2012/03/14/david-archibald/

I already mentioned the Lavoisier Group which supports him, which was established specifically to deny climate change, and which is funded by the coal and oil industry.

"The group is closely associated with the Australian mining industry, and was founded in 2000 by Ray Evans, then an executive at Western Mining Corporation (WMC), who was also involved in founding the HR Nicholls Society and the Bennelong Society. Hugh Morgan, former WMC boss and head of the Business Council of Australia until 2005, delivered the group's inaugural speech ..... Most of the members are over 60 years old. Economist John Quiggin has written that the Lavoisier Group is "devoted to the proposition that basic principles of physics...cease to apply when they come into conflict with the interests of the Australian coal industry." For more detail and further links see: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Lavoisier_Group

[Pies4shaw]

When I read thebaldfacts' posts, I long for Bruno's carefully constructed, balanced arguments.

[Tannin]

^ !

[watt price tully]

Bloody Tony Abbott, stealing thebaldfacts password again.

[thebaldfacts]

Not surprisingly the Global warmists when their beliefs are challenged, resort to their normal abuse.

I suspect that the scientist who published in the journal are more qualified than you Tannin. Unfortunately it looks like you failed to get past the Australian article. Unless it is in Fairfax or the ABC then you resort to abuse.

Pies4shaw, I provided links to articles expressing a point of view. Not sure what you are looking for with a carefully constructed balanced argument.
It is a link to articles. Read them and make up your own mind.

[thebaldfacts]

[Pies4shaw]

[Tannin]

[thebaldfacts]

[Tannin]

I love differing points of view, TBF. But so far you haven't linked to anything worth reading. It's just the same old long-since discredited pseudo-science churned out by the same old discredited and self-interested non-experts, some of them former tobacco denialists who have switched over to climate denial 'coz that's where the money is these days, some of them apparently just loopy weirdos with nasty friends.

[thebaldfacts]

Actually Tannin, the work referenced is from these:

Usoskin, I.G., Hulot, G., Gallet, Y., Roth, R., Licht, A., Joos, F., Kovaltsov, G.A., Thebault, E. and Khokhlov, A. 2014. Evidence for distinct modes of solar activity. Astronomy and Astrophysics 562: L10, doi: 10.1051/0004-6361/201423391.

[Pies4shaw]

[Tannin]