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3.14159 
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I have a counter proposal...
How about you take some of your own advice and stop acting like a bitching, sniping school girl!
I don't need people that seem intent on pissing me off!!!!!! |
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Joel 
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| One bloke equals the Libs apparently? |
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3.14159
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No one in the libs the equal of one real bloke (that includes Amanda Vanstone and Julia Bishop two).
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David 
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| Joel wrote: | | One bloke equals the Libs apparently? |
More reflective of a certain influential strain within the Liberal Party. I don't know about the abortion/breast cancer thing (probably pseudoscience), but just the fact in general that these politicians are involved in this "family values" conference shows how extreme they are.
You can bet Abbott would be there too if it weren't for the fact that he's prime minister and needs to look a little more 'mainstream'.
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| David wrote: |
You can bet Abbott would be there too if it weren't for the fact that he's the prime minister and needs to look a little more 'mainstream'. |
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! kerplonk! |
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Wokko 
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| Tannin wrote: | | Wokko wrote: | | The problem is wpt, there is talent in the liberal party. Turnbull & Bishop come to mind |
Which Bishop are you talking about? It couldn't be the one who is universally judged the worst, most biased, most unfair Speaker in the history of the Australian parliament, could it. And it couldn't be the heartless, evil scum-woman who made a living in courts denying help for dying asbestos victims and doing everything she could to hold up and delay the due compensation payments until the victims were dead and couldn't claim them anymore? The nasty bit of work who doesn't even seem to be ashamed of her appalling past? Must be some other Bishop. I didn't know that there were three of them. |
Both of them are formidable politicians who made it in a male dominated world without the leg up of affirmative action or quotas. You may disagree with their politics but to disparage their ability is petty and near sighted. I for example loathe what Penny Wong stands for, but she is a brilliant politician, probably the best the Labor party has to offer. |
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Tannin
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Penny Wong never made a living deliberately delaying asbestos victims' compensation trials until they had died a slow, agonising death with the aim, of course, of avoiding having to pay anything at all to the people horribly killed by their employer.
That's not talent: that is scum. That is the very lowest of the low, and its name is Bishop.
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Wokko
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| Tannin wrote: | Penny Wong never made a living deliberately delaying asbestos victims' compensation trials until they had died a slow, agonising death with the aim, of course, of avoiding having to pay anything at all to the people horribly killed by their employer.
That's not talent: that is scum. That is the very lowest of the low, and its name is Bishop. |
That's a lawyer representing their client, and she was part of a legal team not some comic book villain. Being employed with a law firm and handed a case to deal with is part and parcel of the profession. The other side has a team of lawyers trying to stop shit like that happening. It's called an adversarial justice system. May as well call a defence lawyer who represents a killer scum too.
Unless you know her personally you have no idea how dealing with a case like that would impact a person or their feelings towards it. I would suggest in all likelyhood she acted professionally and for the best interests of her client. |
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3.14159
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| Wokko wrote: | | Tannin wrote: | Penny Wong never made a living deliberately delaying asbestos victims' compensation trials until they had died a slow, agonising death with the aim, of course, of avoiding having to pay anything at all to the people horribly killed by their employer.
That's not talent: that is scum. That is the very lowest of the low, and its name is Bishop. |
That's a lawyer representing their client, and she was part of a legal team not some comic book villain. Being employed with a law firm and handed a case to deal with is part and parcel of the profession. The other side has a team of lawyers trying to stop shit like that happening. It's called an adversarial justice system. May as well call a defence lawyer who represents a killer scum too.
Unless you know her personally you have no idea how dealing with a case like that would impact a person or their feelings towards it. I would suggest in all likelyhood she acted professionally and for the best interests of her client. |
Was a gun held to her head leaving her no choice but to take the case and use such tactics? |
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Tannin
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Rubbish, Wokko. She had an absolute right to walk away from that lucrative case and do other work. She chose to take it on, and chose to actively participate in the attempt to deny asbestos victims' their rightful trial and compensation until they died a slow, agonising death caused by Bishop's client. She could have walked away. She didn't. She could have said "this is immoral and you need to find another lawyer, one with a stronger stomach". She didn't. She could have said "I will represent you but I won't be a party to deliberate and repeated delays in the hope and expectation that the victim will slowly choke to death and cheat the course of justice". She didn't. She chose to continue. It doesn't get any worse than that. She is unfit to hold public office in any capacity at all.
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nomadjack
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| Wokko wrote: | | Tannin wrote: | | Wokko wrote: | | The problem is wpt, there is talent in the liberal party. Turnbull & Bishop come to mind |
Which Bishop are you talking about? It couldn't be the one who is universally judged the worst, most biased, most unfair Speaker in the history of the Australian parliament, could it. And it couldn't be the heartless, evil scum-woman who made a living in courts denying help for dying asbestos victims and doing everything she could to hold up and delay the due compensation payments until the victims were dead and couldn't claim them anymore? The nasty bit of work who doesn't even seem to be ashamed of her appalling past? Must be some other Bishop. I didn't know that there were three of them. |
Both of them are formidable politicians who made it in a male dominated world without the leg up of affirmative action or quotas. You may disagree with their politics but to disparage their ability is petty and near sighted. I for example loathe what Penny Wong stands for, but she is a brilliant politician, probably the best the Labor party has to offer. |
Morality of her previous role aside Julia Bishop has been a good performer as a shadow minister and passable as a minister so far. Bronwyn Bishop in contrast was a solid parliamentary performer but an abject failure as a junior minister.
Tannin, you are kidding yourself if you think she's any worse than Leo McCleay or Stephen Martin. It's part and parcel of the role in Australia (unfortunately). |
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David
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| Wokko wrote: | | Tannin wrote: | Penny Wong never made a living deliberately delaying asbestos victims' compensation trials until they had died a slow, agonising death with the aim, of course, of avoiding having to pay anything at all to the people horribly killed by their employer.
That's not talent: that is scum. That is the very lowest of the low, and its name is Bishop. |
That's a lawyer representing their client, and she was part of a legal team not some comic book villain. Being employed with a law firm and handed a case to deal with is part and parcel of the profession. The other side has a team of lawyers trying to stop shit like that happening. It's called an adversarial justice system. May as well call a defence lawyer who represents a killer scum too.
Unless you know her personally you have no idea how dealing with a case like that would impact a person or their feelings towards it. I would suggest in all likelyhood she acted professionally and for the best interests of her client. |
I'm with you, Wokko. Greens senator Richard Di Natale was given grief for having represented neo-nazis in court, and I thought that was completely unwarranted. Scaring defence lawyers away from representing controversial clients would be a terrible thing for our justice system and for civil liberties.
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Tannin
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David, there is nothing "controversial" about persecuting people who are already dying in agony from slow strangulation. "Controversy" is where people disagree. Every civilised person would regard what Bishop did as appalling and disgraceful. Remember, she wasn't defending a client - not in the sense that a lawyer defends (say) a murderer at his trial - she was trying to deny then any justice at all by delaying and delaying and delaying all the cases until the victims were dead.
She is not fit to hold office.
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swoop42 
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To be honest I'm more disturbed by the Libs proposed changes to welfare.
God help some 18 year old kid in desperate need of being able to leave an abusive household or the father of two who suddenly loses his blue collar job and has no saftey net to fall back on to pay the rent or feed his family.
Hell stuff the extreme examples how about just everyone and anyone potentially not having any money to survive on for 6 months.
What the hell is wrong with this government?
People should be marching in protest about this.
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