 |
|
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto
|
| Post subject: |  |
|
So, a specialised tertiary education institution that most people have never heard of giving a "scholarship" to a politicians adult child several years ago (quite probably trying to curry favour with said politician) is in the public interest, yet being able to access nude pics of celebrities isn't?
For shame. |
|
|
|
 |
Tannin 
Can't remember
Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
|
| Post subject: | |
|
^ Correct.
_________________
�Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
|
|
|
|
Tannin
Can't remember
Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
|
| Post subject: | |
|
In more detail, the first (exposure of Abbott's family graft) is obviously a benefit to society as it exposes the dishonesty of a candidate for high public office. (Even if you assume the ludicrous claim that this was an ordinary scholarship (which it wasn't) and had nothing even remotely to do with the recipient's close relationship to a powerful politician (which beggars belief) there is still the fact that Abbott kept it secret and failed to disclose it on his register of interests. An undisclosed $60,000 gratuity is not a minor matter: that's a serious perversion of his sworn duty as a person on the public payroll - and not for the first time, he's been caught out in at least two other sizeable rorts before and since then. The public has an absolute right to know.
On the other hand, publication of an actress' intimate photographs serves no legitimate public purpose whatever and damages the victim.
_________________
�Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
|
|
|
|
pietillidie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005
|
| Post subject: | |
|
^It always astonishes me what people will overlook when it suits them.
And David, sometimes your efforts to be "balanced" look a heck of a lot more like today's bout of contrarianism than actual balance. Tannin's interpretation above is basic commonsense; just how credulous do you want to be?
And we know Stui wouldn't give anyone from a union anywhere near the same latitude.
_________________
In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
Help Nick's: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/fundraising.htm |
|
|
|
|
stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto
|
| Post subject: | |
|
I basically gift wrapped that one for you.  |
|
|
|
|
Pies4shaw 
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| The obsession with the scholarship trivia speaks eloquently of the poverty of political debate in this country. There are a lot of good reasons to wish Abbott out of office and it would be more interesting if people focussed on those. |
|
|
|
|
pietillidie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Pies4shaw wrote: | | The obsession with the scholarship trivia speaks eloquently of the poverty of political debate in this country. There are a lot of good reasons to wish Abbott out of office and it would be more interesting if people focussed on those. |
Mate, just because you're not fond of matters pertaining to the abuse of privilege/class/wealth/access doesn't mean others aren't. Is this a particularly uncomfortable topic for you? Piketty is in vogue today rather than retrospectively in 1983 for very good reason.
_________________
In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
Help Nick's: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/fundraising.htm |
|
|
|
|
Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
|
| Post subject: | |
|
The best part about that vapid piece of abuse is the implied premise that Liberal Party politicians are the only ones who are the recipients of dubious favours. I want a change of government - I don't want it because I believe the fairy-tale that the opposition are, to a woman, somehow more personally meritorious than the present incumbents. That's never the issue for people who can think for themselves. It's just low-price, sloppy, "four legs good, two legs better" rhetoric.
Finally, if you are going to resort to weasly attempts to smear me personally, try not to start your post with the word "Mate". |
|
|
|
|
1061
Joined: 06 Sep 2013
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Finally, if you are going to resort to weasly attempts to smear me personally, try not to start your post with the word "Mate". |
Seriously is you honestly feel so offended by that one word I suggest you find a mirror and have a good look into it. If that word has such an affect on your psyche you would do better seeking out the truth within yourself as too why is it so than to lecture the poster for using that word. |
|
|
|
|
pietillidie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Pies4shaw wrote: | The best part about that vapid piece of abuse is the implied premise that Liberal Party politicians are the only ones who are the recipients of dubious favours. I want a change of government - I don't want it because I believe the fairy-tale that the opposition are, to a woman, somehow more personally meritorious than the present incumbents. That's never the issue for people who can think for themselves. It's just low-price, sloppy, "four legs good, two legs better" rhetoric.
Finally, if you are going to resort to weasly attempts to smear me personally, try not to start your post with the word "Mate". |
Right, so we've established it is a particularly sensitive topic for you and you really are out of date, hence the moth-ridden allusions and the hysterics at not being granted special status among men. Like many of our foibles, that's all fine if you're aware of it (though in case you haven't noticed, two-and-a-half decades have elapsed since the fall of the Berlin Wall).
Incidentally, the only fairy tale here is your 1980s denial of wealth and access as social cleavages. These days—believe it or not—many folk enjoy re-runs of Different Strokes and embrace reality all at once!
_________________
In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
Help Nick's: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/fundraising.htm |
|
|
|
|
Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| 1061 wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | Finally, if you are going to resort to weasly attempts to smear me personally, try not to start your post with the word "Mate". |
Seriously is you honestly feel so offended by that one word I suggest you find a mirror and have a good look into it. If that word has such an affect on your psyche you would do better seeking out the truth within yourself as too why is it so than to lecture the poster for using that word. |
... [?] .... |
|
|
|
|
Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| pietillidie wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | The best part about that vapid piece of abuse is the implied premise that Liberal Party politicians are the only ones who are the recipients of dubious favours. I want a change of government - I don't want it because I believe the fairy-tale that the opposition are, to a woman, somehow more personally meritorious than the present incumbents. That's never the issue for people who can think for themselves. It's just low-price, sloppy, "four legs good, two legs better" rhetoric.
Finally, if you are going to resort to weasly attempts to smear me personally, try not to start your post with the word "Mate". |
Right, so we've established it is a particularly sensitive topic for you and you really are out of date, hence the moth-ridden allusions and the hysterics at not being granted special status among men. Like many of our foibles, that's all fine if you're aware of it (though in case you haven't noticed, two-and-a-half decades have elapsed since the fall of the Berlin Wall).
Incidentally, the only fairy tale here is your 1980s denial of wealth and access as social cleavages. These days—believe it or not—many folk enjoy re-runs of Different Strokes and embrace reality all at once! |
If that's what you take from my response, then there's little point in me engaging further. Have a nice day. |
|
|
|
|
1061
Joined: 06 Sep 2013
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Pies4shaw wrote: | | 1061 wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | Finally, if you are going to resort to weasly attempts to smear me personally, try not to start your post with the word "Mate". |
Seriously is you honestly feel so offended by that one word I suggest you find a mirror and have a good look into it. If that word has such an affect on your psyche you would do better seeking out the truth within yourself as too why is it so than to lecture the poster for using that word. |
... [?] .... |
OK the KISS version
"get over yourself!" |
|
|
|
|
HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Pies4shaw wrote: | [quote="pietillidie"][quote="Pies4shaw"]The best part about that vapid piece of abuse is the implied premise that Liberal Party politicians are the only ones who are the recipients of dubious favours. I want a change of government - I don't want it because I believe the fairy-tale that the opposition are, to a woman, somehow more personally meritorious than the present incumbents. That's never the issue for people who can think for themselves. It's just low-price, sloppy, "four legs good, two legs better" rhetoric.
Finally, if you are going to resort to weasly attempts to smear me personally, try not to start your post with the word "Mate".[/quote]
Right, so we've established it [i]is[/i] a particularly sensitive topic for you and you really are out of date, hence the moth-ridden allusions and the hysterics at not being granted special status among men. Like many of our foibles, that's all fine if you're aware of it (though in case you haven't noticed, two-and-a-half decades have elapsed since the fall of the Berlin Wall).
Incidentally, the only fairy tale here is your 1980s denial of wealth and access as social cleavages. These days—believe it or not—many folk enjoy re-runs of [i]Different Strokes[/i] and embrace reality all at once![/quote]
If that's what you take from my response, then there's little point in me engaging further. Have a nice day. |
You too! |
|
|
|
|
Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Thanks, HAL. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum
|
|
The Rules
FAQ
Usergroups
Calendar
Search
Log in
Register
