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1061
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| I saw on the news last night Broady's unemployment rate is up from 19% to 26% and also saw somewhere Australia's unemployment rate is higher than America's for the first time since 07. |
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| 1061 wrote: | | I saw on the news last night Broady's unemployment rate is up from 19% to 26% and also saw somewhere Australia's unemployment rate is higher than America's for the first time since 07. |
Australia's unemployment rate is 6.1% and the USA's is 5.9% so you're quire right about that.
Not sure how long it's been that the US have had a lower unemployment rate as opposed to Australia but I'll take your word for it that it's the first time since 2007 that the US has a lower unemployment rate than Australia, albeit very narrowly.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/unemployment-rate
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate
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I see the the effects of George W. Abbott's economic "vision" are finally trickling down to the general populace.
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That Broadmeadows figure should be a concern for everyone. Having over 1/4 of any community unemployed is disastrous and with everything that is going on in the world atm I fear what may come out of this suburbs disaster.
If any of you want me to expand further on what I fear then sorry I'm not about to write a 10 paragraph essay on a message-board explaining myself. If you don't get it in a few lines then you wont get it in essay form. |
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I think Shorten for once got it 110% spot on, weird indeed.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/g20/g20-summit-tony-abbott-laments-to-world-leaders-his-failure-to-pass-tax-on-gp-visits-20141115-11nccp.html
| Quote: | Prime Minister Tony Abbott has expressed his frustrations to world leaders at his inability to impose a $7 fee on GP visits and blamed voters who love free government programs for supporting wasteful spending.
In his opening address to world leaders gathered for the Leaders' Retreat at Queensland's State Parliament, Mr Abbott spruiked his successes at stopping asylum seekers travelling to Australia by boat and his repeal of carbon pricing.
The address was soon attacked by Labor leader Bill Shorten as "weird and graceless".
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In his televised speech, Mr Abbott also "thanked God" he had stopped the "illegal boats", noted that the former Labor government's carbon tax is "gone" and underlined his plan to build more roads.
The gathering included the presidents of the United States and China who have recently struck a landmark deal to reduce their carbon emissions beyond 2020. Indonesia's President Joko Widodo, who has previously warned he would not tolerate incursions into Indonesia's waters by Australian navy vessels turning back boats, is also attending.
Mr Abbott described the gathering as comprising some of the most "powerful and influential" people in the world.
"Nowhere on earth will there be a more influential gathering than this," he said and pointed out that they were meeting in the defunct Legislative Council of Queensland's State Parliament.
"This room symbolises the limitations on our power," Mr Abbott said. He called for leaders to speak from their "hearts" rather than "scripts" and for a maximum of five minutes each. He also urged the leaders to address each other by their first names to promote "personal warmth".
Mr Abbott became most candid when discussing his domestic issues, notably two of the federal budget's most contested measures – the proposed $7 fee to visit the doctor and the plan to uncap university fees.
The Senate is due to vote on the higher education changes before the end of the year but it is likely to be struck down. The government has not introduced any legislation for its GP fee but has not ruled out subverting the Parliament to introduce the co-payment.
Mr Abbott conceded his frustrations: "We all know what we would like to do, but we all know there are many constraints on what we can do.
"It doesn't matter what spending program you look at, it doesn't matter how wasteful that spending program might appear, there are always some people in the community who vote who love that program very much," Mr Abbott said on Saturday.
"For a long time most Australians who went to see a doctor have been seen at no charge and we would like to see a $7 co-payment for people who are going to see the doctor.
"In most countries this is not unusual … but it is proving to be massively difficult to get this particular reform through the Parliament.
"So getting the budget under control has proven very difficult," Mr Abbott said.
Mr Shorten said the address was at best "weird and graceless" but at worst a "disastrous missed opportunity for Australia".
"This was Tony Abbott's moment in front of the most important and influential leaders in the world and he's whingeing that Australians don't want his GP tax," he said.
Mr Shorten said Mr Abbott had had "months to prepare for this moment" but failed dismally.
"He boasted of taking Australia backwards on climate change action, making it harder for Australians to go to university and pricing sick people out of getting the healthcare they need," Mr Shorten said.
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It's quite embarrassing that at a G20 summit our PM talks about a $7 charge he couldn't get through Parliament. I also find it amazing that all the Liberal Lovers who so wanted Big Ears in power have disappeared.
I wonder if Rhodes will ask for their Scholarship back? |
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| He was basically complaining that democracy is preventing the implementation of his "reforms" |
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| partypie wrote: | | He was basically complaining that democracy is preventing the implementation of his "reforms" |
And when in opposition what did he do? The do as I say not as I do party.  |
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^ Not actually strictly true, Tannin. Abbott likely had no part in arranging his daughter's scholarship, and wasn't even in power when it happened (though now he is, he certainly could have acknowledged that this kind of nepotistic corruption is a problem and worked to prevent it from occurring in future).
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| 1061 wrote: | That Broadmeadows figure should be a concern for everyone. Having over 1/4 of any community unemployed is disastrous and with everything that is going on in the world atm I fear what may come out of this suburbs disaster.
If any of you want me to expand further on what I fear then sorry I'm not about to write a 10 paragraph essay on a message-board explaining myself. If you don't get it in a few lines then you wont get it in essay form. |
25% is really scary.
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| think positive wrote: | | 1061 wrote: | That Broadmeadows figure should be a concern for everyone. Having over 1/4 of any community unemployed is disastrous and with everything that is going on in the world atm I fear what may come out of this suburbs disaster.
If any of you want me to expand further on what I fear then sorry I'm not about to write a 10 paragraph essay on a message-board explaining myself. If you don't get it in a few lines then you wont get it in essay form. |
25% is really scary. |
Bored young men who feel disenfranchised with their own Country just ripe for the pickings/recruiting! |
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Culprit
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| ^^Home Grown Terrorism is a major concern. |
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| When is ^^Home Grown Terrorism not a major concern? |
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1061
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Oh Dear now the LA Times are LoLing at us.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/11/16/comment-australia-suffers-another-cringe-worthy-moment-during-g20-summit
| Quote: | The adolescent country. The bit player. The shrimp of the schoolyard.
For Australians it's not so bad - most of the time - to be so far away, so overlooked, so seemingly insignificant as to almost never factor in major international news. The lifestyle makes up for it.
But occasionally, there's an awkward, pimply youth moment so embarrassing that it does sting. Like when 19 of the world's most important leaders visit for a global summit and Prime Minister Tony Abbott opens their retreat Saturday with a whinge (Aussie for whine) about his doomed efforts to get his fellow Australians to pay $7 to see a doctor.
And then he throws in a boast that his government repealed the country's carbon tax, standing out among Western nations as the one willing to reverse progress on climate change - just days after the United States and China reached a landmark climate change deal.
The Group of 20 summit could have been Australia's moment, signaling its arrival as a global player, some here argued. But in all, the summit had Australians cringing more than cheering.
It was a classic example of what Australian author and journalist Peter Hartcher calls the "pathology of parochialism" in a recent book, "The Adolescent Country." Hartcher argues that the nation's politicians rarely miss a chance to trump important foreign policy matters of long-term national interest to score cheap domestic political points.
"The big matters are commonly crowded out by the small," he argues. "International policy is used for domestic point-scoring."
Opposition leader Bill Shorten called Abbott's opening G20 address "weird and graceless."
"This was Tony Abbott's moment in front of the most important and influential leaders in the world and he's whingeing that Australians don't want his GP tax," said Shorten, referring to the $7 fee.
It's a tendency some observers argue not only damages the country's credibility but Australians' ability to take themselves seriously.
Historians like Geoffrey Blainey, who wrote "The Tyranny of Distance" in 1966, explained Australia's "cultural cringe" and parochialism as a product of the continent's historic isolation and vast distance from the colonial power, Britain. The title became an explain-all catchphrase. But almost 50 years later, with China and other Asian powers rising, Australia leaning toward its Asian neighbors, and NATO dominance waning, surely Australia had grown up?
Hartcher believes that Australian politicians have lately squandered opportunities to strengthen the country's global position at the time of a major global power shift.
"The great crises that threaten Australia's national prosperity come from abroad," he wrote. "So do the grandest opportunities. But the reflex in Australia's national politics is that where these biggest stakes come into competition with the smallest, the small are the ones that very often win.
"Measured against its potential today and its needs tomorrow, Australia is seriously underperforming and it is underperforming because of the pathology of parochialism."
In a book about Australia last year, the BBC's former Sydney correspondent, Nick Bryant, said parochial politics had been taken to the point of absurdity and "the party room has trumped the halls of international summitry."
After the July shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, widely blamed on pro-Russia Ukrainian separatists, Abbott publicly vowed to "shirt front" Russian President Vladimir Putin - a term conveying a chest-to-chest male physical confrontation. After orchestrated Western pressure and pointed slights against Putin at the G20, the Russian leader reportedly planned to leave early.
Since his election last year, Abbott has also taken a tough line with China, his country's biggest trading partner. He offended the world's most populous Muslim country and one of Australia's closest and most important neighbors, Indonesia, over his handling of his policy to turn back boats carrying would-be asylum seekers from countries such as Afghanistan who often depart from Indonesia.
In the lead-up to the G20 summit, the conservative Abbott insisted climate change would not be on the agenda, only to be wrong-footed by the US-China climate change deal and President Barack Obama's pledge to contribute $3 billion to a fund to help developing countries deal with the effects of global warming.
"Australia has a choice," said analyst Michael Fullilove, director of the Lowy Institute for International Policy, a Sydney-based think tank, in a recent article, noting the country's shrinking diplomatic corps and military. "Do we want to be a little nation, with a small population, a restricted diplomatic network, a modest defense force, and a cramped vision of our future? Or do we want to be larger: a big, confident country with the ability to influence the balance of power in Asia, a constructive public debate, and a foreign policy that is both ambitious and coherent?"
For some, the G20 moment stung all the more after a memorial service this month for a reformist Australian, former Labor Party Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, who died in October at 98. It was a day of stirring speeches, with nostalgia for a time when leaders had sweeping ideas of the country's identity, vision and place in the world and weren't afraid to spell them out in grand, compelling speeches.
Don Watson, a speechwriter for Labor's former Prime Minister Paul Keating, said recently that great speeches took words and ideas seriously.
"Funnily enough, not many in politics do anymore" in Australia, he said. "I mean, the main objective, one would think from listening to politicians now is to try to remove the meaning from words, to make them as anodyne and dull as possible, not to generate human interest but to squash it." |
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