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AN_Inkling
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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| Woods Of Ypres wrote: |
NBA is a lot different, as acquiring young talent carries more weight due to team size and potential to trade high picks for elite players. Even so, look at the top teams in the NBA - SAS, MIA, IND, DAL, HOU. These teams get assembled by good front offices.
Every NBA team gets pieces. Its all about how they are managed.
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Well, in the NBA it all depends on one question: is your team in a big market town?
If yes, then you can pretty much ignore the draft and build a team via free agency (Miami, Houston, Lakers, Chicago...). If no, you need to draft smart, have a quality organisation and develop your own team (San Antonio and Oklahoma City are the two recent standouts here). Small market teams just can not attract the big names via free agency. Even if they could, their owners will never go into the luxury tax to build the kind of super team you see elsewhere. OKC having to let Harden go is a good example of this. It is definitely a two-tiered system.
And when you're building a team from the draft, you need at least to be getting some top 10 picks, and really to be getting the minimum 1 and desired 2 superstars, you'll be needing top 5 picks. OKC built their team around two top 5 picks in Durant (pick 2  ) and Westbrook (pick 4). Harden was taken at 3 and also became an All Star, but had to be moved on when he demanded a max contract. They built around this with Ibaka and Jackson taken in the 20s, but without the one or two superstars you don't have a championship level team. And these days, picking one up outside the top 10 is almost unheard of, and you mostly need to be inside the top 5.
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Breadcrawl
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| Woods Of Ypres wrote: | never understood the worry about tanking.
success comes with smart recruiting, list management, development, coaching and culture
You dont need high draft picks to be successful. look recently at GEE, HAW, SYD, FRE. have a looks at teams who bottomed out in last 10yrs ie CAR, MEL, RICH, how are they travelling?
NBA is a lot different, as acquiring young talent carries more weight due to team size and potential to trade high picks for elite players. Even so, look at the top teams in the NBA - SAS, MIA, IND, DAL, HOU. These teams get assembled by good front offices.
Every NBA team gets pieces. Its all about how they are managed.
Anyway, If AFL teams tank to move up a few spots in the draft, of course its not perfectly fair but I don't see it as a big deal. |
Top post. All tanking achieves is that the best young players end up having ordinary careers at crap clubs.
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rand corp
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: south east asia
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| Tanking is as simple as packing off several of your a listers for end of year surgery and playing your kids. |
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derkd
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| neil wrote: | Does anyone really trust the AFL to run a lottery?
After Collingwood get shit picks ten years in a row will the penny drop?
Dont think we will get shafted think of the old zoning system and how two teams won about 13 premierships in a 20 year period.
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agree, but we had our chances to win grand finals...we wilted under the pressure in more then a few....i mean jeez 1970...we should have walked that match in and we crumbled. |
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| rand corp wrote: | | Tanking is as simple as packing off several of your a listers for end of year surgery and playing your kids. |
I would argue that in addition to the father/son, some good list management and great team chemistry, "tanking" in 2005 was one of the major factors that lead to our grand final win in 2010.
I just don't think we win the GF without having visited the doghouse in the mid 00's to pick up Pendles and Thomas!
I agree with an earlier poster who said tankiong isn't really an issue anymore given that there are no longer concessions and the quality of dependable junior talent coming through is getting deeper and deeper. I think the only tanking that would still go on is that MAYBE a team will lose the last game or two to secure the top pick in years where there might be a super standout guy (like there was last year.
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AN_Inkling
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And the Hawks wouldn't be where they are without tanking either. They probably tanked harder than anyone.
The Cats not so much, but they got a leap on the competition with some very handy father/son picks. The fact is you don't win a Premiership without quality players. The best way to access these players is still the draft. Though, if you're compensated by the AFL going the Sydney route and paying big for opposition players is also an option.
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Big T
Joined: 18 Oct 2003
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| rand corp wrote: | | Tanking is as simple as packing off several of your a listers for end of year surgery and playing your kids. |
This. Try your best in every game. Just don't play your best players when there is nothing on the line and they need to prepare for the next pre season.
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