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swoop42 
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Joined: 02 Aug 2008
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Blair had 24% more game time than Martin for 4 more disposals (18-14).
Martin had really poor disposal efficiency of 50% for this game which is a shame given he's considered a good user of the ball at VFL level.
I suspect that will improve greatly once he's more composed at this level.
Blairs efficiency wasn't that stellar either at a touch above 61%.
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AN_Inkling
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^^Also, Blair had 5 clearances to Martin's 0, and 6 tackles to Martin's 4.
Still, I don't think either played a role that we'd like to see them in long term, even though Blair did quite well in a difficult situation.
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jackcass 
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| think positive wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | | MOTR wrote: | He had to sub him out. He wasn't contributing and our place in the eight was on the line. Kennedy had more chance of providing a spark. Exact move. I would have made.
The big decision will be whether he gets a run next week. |
thats right a half a game is enough to judge
kicked a goal which is more than what blair got |
Blair kicked 2 goals |
Blair kicked 1.1. I think but point is valid, thought Blair was one of our better players. You're just not going to stop the hate. |
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HAL
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Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | | woftam wrote: | | Collingwood Crackerjack wrote: | | Would have liked to see him in the guts a bit more, seem to play high half forward? |
This is the hardest thing our players have to deal with when coming from the VFL to the AFL. The likes of Kennedy & Martin play midfield in the VFL & then when they get the call up, they have to play a role they haven't been used to playing. Same with Adams. We wacked him in the backline. Thank goodness today he played as an inside mid. |
The problem is Martin's not an in the guts player at senior level. He weighs what, 77kg? Pushed off the ball very easily tonight. At senior level he's either a forward pocket where he doesn't have the skill or pace to be much more than a defensive forward like Blair, or as an outside midfield runner like Sidebottom, and when you don't have pace, you need to be very good and an elite runner to play this role.
At this stage it's probably not going to hurt to keep him in, but I don't see a big future at senior level. Being another slow, short player I don't see how he actually improves our team. |
That's why Dwyer was continually getting picked ahead of him. Quicker and more creative. Hopefully Martin gets a few games to prove us all wrong. |
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Give him the rest of the year
must find out oné way or the other
gott pushed off the contest too easily
as did most of the players
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Podpicken
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Blair wins.
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Bob Sugar
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Was no surprise to see Martin struggle a bit yesterday, it'll take time to adjust to the pace and his new team mates, I thought Blair was very good, I had him in our bests, he did a lot of little things that didn't record a stat.
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5150 
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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Hope they give KM the rest of the year to evaluate.
I also had Blair in the votes yesterday but still too inconsistent. |
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Flashman
Joined: 11 Aug 2007
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Blair played his best game in quite a while I thought.
Martin did some nice things but clearly struggled with the tempo at AFL level. Worth persevering with for the next couple of weeks. |
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SuperStar Beams 
Joined: 25 Sep 2009
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| I would like to see Martin get a chance for the rest of the year because that will help see if we keep him or not next year |
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Albert Parker
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Give Kyle a chance to find his feet.
Blair covered him yesterday no doubt, but hardly a fair comparison when one has been playing seniors tempo all season.
No doubt guys like Adams, Kennedy, Martin have all struggled to find the tempo of senior football as they have come in. Doesn't mean they won't make it.
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WarrenerraW
Joined: 18 Apr 2008
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| Martin deserves another shot at it and he was far from our worst last night. |
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Duff Soviet Union
Joined: 17 Aug 2010
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| WarrenerraW wrote: | | Martin deserves another shot at it and he was far from our worst last night. |
I wouldn't mind knowing who you think was our worst last night.
I wanted him to get a shot, and I want him to have another one after last night, but be honest, he was awful last night.
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matrix10
Joined: 17 May 2009
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| Flashman wrote: | Blair played his best game in quite a while I thought.
Martin did some nice things but clearly struggled with the tempo at AFL level. Worth persevering with for the next couple of weeks. |
agreed on al accounts |
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