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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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Geez Hal, you were paid good money not to speak of it again. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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Sister Francesca and tim endorse this post? |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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Jezza
2023 PREMIERS!
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http://newsweekly.com.au/article.php?id=4346
This woman has no backbone whatsoever considering she had three years to repeal the Marriage Act when she was the Prime Minister even after her party's platform on same-sex marriage changed in December 2011.
Is this the same Julia Gillard who said prostitution comes in the form of marriage!
Quote: | "Prostitution takes many forms and is not only the exchange of money for sex. … Prostitution in marriage is the transaction of sex in return for love, security and house-keeping." |
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David
I dare you to try
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This plebiscite idea is looking stupider every day. Now a number of conservative Liberals are saying that they'll ignore the result and vote against it anyway.
They're entitled to do that, of course. But WTF is the point of having a plebiscite then? We already know that the vast majority support it. Do we really have $160 million lying around to flush down the drain?
Ah well, at least somebody's benefiting from it.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jan/28/same-sex-marriage-plebiscite-kicked-issue-into-long-grass-boasts-christian-lobby
Come on Malcolm. End this silliness now and bring on the parliamentary vote. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Location: Between London and Melbourne
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Jezza wrote: | http://newsweekly.com.au/article.php?id=4346
This woman has no backbone whatsoever considering she had three years to repeal the Marriage Act when she was the Prime Minister even after her party's platform on same-sex marriage changed in December 2011.
Is this the same Julia Gillard who said prostitution comes in the form of marriage!
Quote: | "Prostitution takes many forms and is not only the exchange of money for sex. … Prostitution in marriage is the transaction of sex in return for love, security and house-keeping." |
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Good Lord, did she really say that ? "The transaction of sex for love". What a strange, cynical view of relationships. And what a strange, weird view of love. _________________ Two more flags before I die! |
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ronrat
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A parliamentary vote will bring no change. Any polly with a significantly catholic muslim , (insert what you like) will vote against it. Simply have it as a referendum agenda , The WE can vote. If it is beaten so be it. Like the euthanasia bills if it can be overturned, A referendum can not. _________________ Annoying opposition supporters since 1967. |
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David
I dare you to try
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^ Nice in theory, but impossible. A referendum can only be called for constitutional matters. There's no mention of marriage in the constitution, so nothing to hold a referendum on.
Research from Marriage Equality suggests that if a free vote were held in parliament today it would either pass or come very close. There are plenty of MPs and senators on both sides of the house who are already publicly in favour of it. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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stui magpie
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Interesting if you could measure whether "support" has actually grown or whether the people who have an objection has lessened. That may be the same thing in the end but is a different attitude to the subject.
I would fall in the latter category. I used to be an opponent but now I think it's inevitable and no longer have any objections. So while I'm not a passionate advocate for it, I'd vote for it at a plebiscite because I no longer believe there's any reason to say no. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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David
I dare you to try
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^ I think that's a very common view, Stui. Most people just don't care and don't see a good reason to oppose it. At this stage it's really only hardcore religious types and perhaps a few old fogies who are passionately against it. In that respect the shift in public opinion in just 10 years is incredible. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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