Global warming and the zombie apocalypse

[David]

[pietillidie]

^Right.

Back to the earlier discussion, the critical point missed by Christian fundamentalists is that such an approach to literature, including religious scriptures, was standard at the time and not viewed as lessening the religious value or "inspiration" of a work. Who'd have imagined Christian fundamentalists would be so bad at understanding other cultures?

The jumps you get from a strongly Hebraic Gospel like Matthew, to the strongly Hellenic Pauline Epistles, and other such time-space gaps between books and even sections of books, explains a lot of the final form contradictions Evangelicals gloss over with bizarre "Occam's Chainsaw" explanations.

Because of the way the canon was stitched together under the cultural norms of the day, it is an astonishing archaeology of humanness, not divinity. Very broadly, the Second Testament movement from the highly structured Classical Hebrew retelling of the Gospels, to the shadowy Platonic philosophizing of say the Book of Romans, to the paranoid apocalypticism of Revelation, is an historical-literary marvel. There's even something for the impatient can-doers like Stui and TP in say Luke and Acts, should they be inclined

FYI, the most lucid technical writer on the early origins of the canon (going back to the "inter-testamental period) is IMO John Barton: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Barton_(theologian) .

[laird]

From climate change to uneducated, complete and utter idiotic attacks on Christ. It is not the bible bashers that need to be feared - it is the athiest thumpers who in their own wisdom apparently know all.

Your hatred, anger and fear is understandable- you are not in control.
More importantly for you is that NOT everyone on the planet agrees with you and this insults what you think is your intelligence.

You are preaching!!!! Hatred.

If you are talking climate change then what has Davids parents understanding of the bible and Christianity got to do with it?

All very childish.

[pietillidie]

^I'm afraid it's your overreaction which is childish, my friend.

You may recall that the biblical canon is a public work. Or do you believe the keys of the kingdom were given to Peter who in turn gave them to the Papacy?

Remember, no one defended the scriptures like the scribes and pharisees, yet we know what the Jesus figure thought of them refusing to update their beliefs for more cosmopolitan times.

Anyhow, we're not here to upset you. We're only off on what is an interesting tangent to us, triggered by certain claims and questions from others.

John Barton's work is a very respectable read on the topic, FYI.

[David]

[laird]

[HAL]

Do you really mean it?

[think positive]

Yes he does

**** me dead, I reckon terminus would be a more fun place than this right now

Who knows? Checking out the smithsonian site, gotta say the Homo Heidelbergensis certainly looks like a few people I know, but saying that will get me in trouble at the footy. Also the neaderthalensis, I'm betting those guys did the Hakka, yep there's one for evolution,

Looking for evidence of Christ is a lot harder, and I'm off to the footy soon.

What I don't get is the Big Bang theory.

Where is the edge of the universe? Why did something go bang? Where do black holes lead too? How do we know? Is the one universe? Are we just a ping pong ball in someone's giant toy box? Why us? Why this planet? How is it possible that it's only us? Why would God, Mother Nature, or the good lord of science build all this? Just so we can fight it out like a pack of plastic soldiers on the dinner table?what a waste of effort.

Are there wiser beings looking down, like some big brother experiment, saying glix glax coo cuckoo blam jam, which loosely translates into have a look at these fricken drongos, killing each other, killing all living things, just because they can, killing their own atmosphere, we don't need to go in there and blast em, they are doing a good enough job of screwing it up themselves.

I just can't believe this whole universe was built just for is. And if it was, shame on us for $£$%^%%$ it up so bad. What a waste

So there's my opinion, stone cold sober, just a mish mash from reading all the negative, attacking, sarcastic, trash that gets fired at each other. Instead of communicating. (Not you David, you don't do that) that's my opinion. And guess what? It's right. So is yours. And yours.

And I'm guessing the truth, God help us is somewhere in the middle. Or maybe south. It's all going south.

[Neil Appleby]

[Neil Appleby]

[stui magpie]

[Neil Appleby]

In that case I will leave it alone.

[Neil Appleby]

Regarding the call for evidence, let’s face it, no evidence for the existence of a divine being has ever been produced that rational thinkers consider persuasive. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence which is why evidence is such a casual thing to believers.

Scientists love it when they are proved wrong. They will tell you in advance what it would take to disprove their belief. For instance I’ve heard scientists speculate upon what it would take i.e. rabbit bones in the precambrian layer. Have you ever heard a religious person say this is what it would take to stop me believing in my supernatural god? Of course not, they are not interested in evidence and wouldn't see it if it hit them like an Alan Toovey shirt-front!

[Pa Marmo]

[Neil Appleby]