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3.14159 Taurus



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:19 pm
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3 months ago both my 5000 litre tanks were empty, now they're full & turning the back-yard into a quagmire.

Now I'm syphoning the excess into the paddocks next door.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:49 pm
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3.14159 wrote:
We must have had rain than you.
3 months ago both mine were empty, now they're full & were turning the back-yard into a quagmire.

Now I'm syphoning the excess into the paddock next door.


Either more rain or your better set up to get the rain off the roof into the tank.

I emptied my 5000 litre tank over summer, it's been full for a while now.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:53 pm
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Just three?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:31 pm
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Both my tanks are on the ground & there's not enough pressure to send into the house.
I have to bring it inside manually (the tap-water is undrinkable), or use it on the garden and even then the pressure is miniscule.

I'm planning to get a pump.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:32 pm
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That is a very original thought.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:02 pm
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Dunno where your rain is coming from then! Until this last week or so, we have had practically zip. Three or four inches now would make a massive difference as the soil is finally wet - still nothing much in the subsoil, but that will come if we get a bit in July.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:00 am
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I can think of only 3 days in last 2 weeks when we haven't had rain, a lot of it heavy.
My guess is when weather comes in hard and fast from the S-W (like it has been) Beckworth disrupts the air-flow and dumps it on us.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:43 am
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^ Yep. And guess who is smack in the shadow of Beckworth. You are stealing my rain, you bastard!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:35 pm
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Crimea river.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:37 pm
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What do you have that is it?
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Again, I emphasise I am definitely no expert here, but I bump this to be provocative.

I've probably been asked a dozen times in the last few years by overseas folks why Australians keep living in high-risk areas. I love the bush and the smell of eucalyptus as much the next person (even more magnificent when you've been away for a while, by the way), but even I would be very cautious about this matter.

Question to those with knowledge of these matters: Is this city ignorance on my part, is it a matter of extremely tricky and deceptive unpredictability, is it a case of poor maintenance, or is it a cultural blind spot?

As a bit of a curiosity, I can recall one of my primary school teachers reading this classic to us in grade 3 or 4:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:41 am
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Okay, I'm a bit behind: Tannin has given his answer in this year's seasonal bushfire thread already:

The Tannic One wrote:
Getting out earlier and more often isn't the answer. You just can't do that. It's not practical.

The answer is threefold:

(1) Houses need to be better designed and better built. We know how to do this, FFS, we just don't do it! How stupid is that? If your house is safe, you are then free to pay attention to other matters (such as making your animals safe), secure in the knowledge that you have a secure place to retreat to if the worst comes to the worst.

(2) People need to stop trying to live in such dangerous places. If you want to live in the bush, that's fine, but it is YOUR responsibility to either build a secure shelter (which is expensive) or else get out early every single time (which is a complete pain in the arse). You are NOT entitled to buy a place in the bush and then raze it to the ground to make it "safer". If you don't want vegetation round your house, buy a house on cleared land. No ifs, no buts.

(3) We need to get frigin' serious about stopping the climate change which is driving the increase in fire frequency and fire severity, and making it impossible to do enough safe control burns 'coz the seasonal window of opportunity is getting smaller and smaller. Step one in that process is to get rid of the traitorous Abbott denier and put in a government that cares about Australia.

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