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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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RudeBoy wrote: | Forget about 2015 or 2016.
We're in the top 4 now so we must seize the opportunity and go the Flag this year. |
Nothing stopping us going for the flag this year RB. Absolutely nothing.
The discussion about 2015/16 is about posters like me predicting when this developing team will hit its peak performance time and capability. Many a team have won flags before their due date so nothing is stopping that from happening again RB. Different issues. |
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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35forever wrote: | I think we'll definitely be in better shape next year, depending on injuries and player movements, however the 2014 Magpies can beat anyone when we're at our best. |
The best stuff you have posted in a very long time 35forever. Totally agree with you. At our very best, we are bloody awesome! |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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Lazza wrote: | RudeBoy wrote: | Forget about 2015 or 2016.
We're in the top 4 now so we must seize the opportunity and go the Flag this year. |
Nothing stopping us going for the flag this year RB. Absolutely nothing.
The discussion about 2015/16 is about posters like me predicting when this developing team will hit its peak performance time and capability. Many a team have won flags before their due date so nothing is stopping that from happening again RB. Different issues. |
I understand your perspective, but I'm always loathe to predict the future. Heaven forbid, Grundy, Pendles and Cloke might all suffer serious injuries next year. Barring the unexpected, I agree that our Premiership window is probably best thought of as being open over the next 2-3 years, but let's not plan for that. We're in the top 4 now and if we finish there at season's end we must go all out to win it this year. Next year is next year. |
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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RudeBoy wrote: | Lazza wrote: | RudeBoy wrote: | Forget about 2015 or 2016.
We're in the top 4 now so we must seize the opportunity and go the Flag this year. |
Nothing stopping us going for the flag this year RB. Absolutely nothing.
The discussion about 2015/16 is about posters like me predicting when this developing team will hit its peak performance time and capability. Many a team have won flags before their due date so nothing is stopping that from happening again RB. Different issues. |
I understand your perspective, but I'm always loathe to predict the future. Heaven forbid, Grundy, Pendles and Cloke might all suffer serious injuries next year. Barring the unexpected, I agree that our Premiership window is probably best thought of as being open over the next 2-3 years, but let's not plan for that. We're in the top 4 now and if we finish there at season's end we must go all out to win it this year. Next year is next year. |
I get your point RB and cant disagree. I always like striking when the iron is hot so we must never let a chance go by. So obviously I fully support us going for it this year. I fervently hope we go all the way.
However it is just this gut feeling I have that by 2015/16, our list will be top class for experience, talent and timing to be flag favourites. Of course you are dead set right about injuries and the like affecting that prediction. |
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AN_Inkling
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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Lazza wrote: | RudeBoy wrote: | Forget about 2015 or 2016.
We're in the top 4 now so we must seize the opportunity and go the Flag this year. |
Nothing stopping us going for the flag this year RB. Absolutely nothing.
The discussion about 2015/16 is about posters like me predicting when this developing team will hit its peak performance time and capability. Many a team have won flags before their due date so nothing is stopping that from happening again RB. Different issues. |
I'm not sure we'll be at our peak in that period without topping up. 2015 is definitely still too early for our young rucks, and we saw in 2010 that the right top up at the right time can bring success. Right now and probably for the next two years our rucks may not be mature enough to take us all the way. _________________ Well done boys! |
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35forever
"I feel sick - dada dada dada da"
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Location: Physical=Sunshine Coast -- Mental=Vic Park
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Talk of 'going for it' is probably moot as I can't imagine we'd be doing anything less being 4th after 10 and with many of our best to return! Especially so given that we were 8th after 10 games last year and never got higher than 6th except a single week at 5th after beating Sydney late in the season which scared the bejayzuz out of the Magpie-hating media (except Ed & Kingy of course).
Oh yes indeed we'll be going for the chockys in 2014, but our chances of tasting said confections will hinge on our performances against Hawthorn & Port, our 'bogey' sides of last year, however I'm more bullish about beating Hawthorn than I have been in quite a while, though I wouldn't mind seeing Port falter a couple of times before we face them!
Our chances only improve if our two highest draft picks heal in time to get a few games into them before the finals. Of course Collingwood's decidedly inaccurate forecasting of such things makes me doubt we'll see the hallowed no. 35 this season, although Freeman is a good chance to have a run in the magoos soon, and his brief debut in the NAB cup was pretty flash, he;s mighty quick, and seemed to handle himself very well. If either match Langdon for skill and smarts we'll be sitting very nicely indeed come finals time, _________________ "If at first you dont succeed...
... oh who cares, we did it!!!!!"
-me, 2010
"The pies are going to the big dance!"-P.Daicos 2010
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Location: The 18
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Regardless of the final result today E was spot on with his observation in his OP.
We have been playing poorly for a month or more now (the rot started in the final quarter against the scum) and if it wasn't for a soft period of the draw for us we would be sitting closer to eighth.
Win today and we'll be in the top 4 but in reality our only meaningful victory has come against the kangaroos for mine (Sydney weren't in the form they are now) and they themselves are a Jekyll and Hyde team.
The hawks next week are the most vulnerable they've been for years with a number of key best 22 members missing (we have a few of our own as well) so it will be our best chance to beat them since 2011 and for top 4 credibility we simply have to.
Can't beat them next week and I can't see us beating them any other time in 2014 but it's hard to see it on today's effort I'm afraid. _________________ He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD! |
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hermie
Joined: 26 Apr 2003 Location: melbourne
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geelong and freo finished in the top 5 last year carlton went further in the finals and essendon should have been there so we have played a lot of top 8 teams already |
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E
Joined: 05 May 2010
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hermie wrote: | geelong and freo finished in the top 5 last year carlton went further in the finals and essendon should have been there so we have played a lot of top 8 teams already |
wrong year dude. Richmond also won the 1980 grand final, but that doesn't count for shit this year! _________________ Ohhh, the Premiership's a cakewalk ....... |
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