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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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Tannin wrote: | Wokko, you are off the freakin planet if you think the Oz outsells the Age. Lots of places they don't even bother stocking it 'coz it sells so badly, but you have to go seriously outback before you can't get the Fin. |
I don't mean it outsells The Age, just that those two papers cut deeply into the Age's readership but the HUN has a free run.
http://www.roymorgan.com.au/industries/media/readership/newspaper-readership
Australian outsells the Fin Review btw, and The Age on Weekends, it is of course a National paper though. |
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Nick - Pie Man
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think positive wrote: | David wrote: | I think there's a big difference between The Australian and the Murdoch tabloids, Tannin. The former, as you say, is an unsustainable vanity project. The latter still dominate their markets and do pretty well (well, as well as a print newspaper can be expected to do in this day and age). Rubbish sells. |
You ever think it's your views that might be strange? Yes it sells what makes it rubbish? That's pretty arrogant. Hell of a lot of the population read it. So your in the minority that has superior intellect? It might one be your taste does not make it rubbish |
Why does it bother you so that people who are smarter than you think that what you like is rubbish? |
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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Nick - Pie Man wrote: | think positive wrote: | David wrote: | I think there's a big difference between The Australian and the Murdoch tabloids, Tannin. The former, as you say, is an unsustainable vanity project. The latter still dominate their markets and do pretty well (well, as well as a print newspaper can be expected to do in this day and age). Rubbish sells. |
You ever think it's your views that might be strange? Yes it sells what makes it rubbish? That's pretty arrogant. Hell of a lot of the population read it. So your in the minority that has superior intellect? It might one be your taste does not make it rubbish |
Why does it bother you so that people who are smarter than you think that what you like is rubbish? |
Dear Luke (That's me),
Thank you for your interest in the test at IQTest.com.
Your general IQ score is: 134
Intelligence Interval Cognitive Designation
40 - 54 Severely challenged (Less than 1% of test takers)
55 - 69 Challenged (2.3% of test takers)
70 - 84 Below average
85 - 114 Average (68% of test takers)
115 - 129 Above average
130 - 144 Gifted (2.3% of test takers)
145 - 159 Genius (Less than 1% of test takers)
160 - 175 Extraordinary genius
I don't think that anybody's personal preferences are rubbish, be they music, newspapers, books, magazines, movies, computer games or television. Those choices may reflect intelligence, upbringing, attention span or general interest but they are never objectively 'better' or 'worse' than someone elses choices. I prefer the Herald Sun to The Age despite it being rather non challenging, I liked the original 'reality TV' (Survivor) and I also enjoy Cheeseburgers (Quarter Pounders to be exact).
As my highly unscientific test results show, I'm quite intelligent but don't fit the world view of a pretentious twat. I have indulged in pretentious twattery at times in my life but happily grew out of it. |
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think positive
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Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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Nick - Pie Man wrote: | think positive wrote: | David wrote: | I think there's a big difference between The Australian and the Murdoch tabloids, Tannin. The former, as you say, is an unsustainable vanity project. The latter still dominate their markets and do pretty well (well, as well as a print newspaper can be expected to do in this day and age). Rubbish sells. |
You ever think it's your views that might be strange? Yes it sells what makes it rubbish? That's pretty arrogant. Hell of a lot of the population read it. So your in the minority that has superior intellect? It might one be your taste does not make it rubbish |
Why does it bother you so that people who think they are smarter than you think that what you like is rubbish? |
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Intelligence is not just measured by application of big words
FYI I don't often read either, I just get sick of the constant bashing of various things the everyday man and woman happen to like, read, watch by those who claim to see all things equal, yet put an opinion out there like some messiah, insulting their preferences as if they are minions _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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Tannin
Can't remember
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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I just re-read what I wrote, and what you wrote is the most absurd and insulting bullshit I ever heard
Wokko wrote: | What unmitigated pretentious crap Tannin. |
Where exactly do you get off, writing such a stupid and offensive comment about a perfectly sensible, fact-based post? I thought you were better than that. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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pietillidie
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Sadly, humans are emotionally vulnerable, which is why we need a legal system to protect us from those who seek to manipulate that vulnerability.
If we got a group of evil scientists together to engineer how to best manipulate people without being prosecuted for it, we would put together a campaign to lure them with a mix of the emotionally stimulating, entertaining and warm, and then throw in the highly distorted once they lowered their guard. Religious cults have been doing it for years.
At best tabloids are the cognitive equivalent of junk food; our body craves them even as they damage us and we know they're poison. At worst, tabloids are a very dangerous cult preying on innate human weaknesses.
The harmless and warm elements wouldn't be a problem if that was the extent of what was happening. The problem is the highly unscientific representation of events and emotions which excite people's fear and anger (primitive, highly stressful emotions), giving them highly distorted feelings about life and the world.
Basically, what they're doing is a form of slow-burn psychiatric abuse; a sort of gradual traumatic brainwashing that makes people ignorant, angry and fearful all at once. And then they tell you to vote for a creep who makes you feel better by letting you unleash the anger they generated within you on asylum seekers and the unemployed. Like clockwork.
What's there to like about that? Purposely misinforming, manipulating and misleading people is a psychopathic dog act and should be described accordingly. _________________ In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
Help Nick's: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/fundraising.htm |
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Tannin
Can't remember
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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Reading is not just the most efficient and effective way to absorb information of most (but not all) kinds, it is by far the most efficient and effective way. The ability to take in information is critical to the ability to learn. Sorry, if you don't often read, you will always battle to keep up those who do read and do learn. You can choose to do something about it, or you can choose not to because you have other priorities. Both are perfectly valid choices. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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think positive
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Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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pietillidie wrote: | humans are emotionally vulnerable, sadly we need a legal system to protect us from those who seek to manipulate that vulnerability.
Purposely misinforming, manipulating and misleading people is a psychopathic dog act and should be described accordingly. |
first sentence fixed, second its psychopathic or arrogant people that do that, the Dog is innocent _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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pietillidie
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think positive wrote: | pietillidie wrote: | humans are emotionally vulnerable, sadly we need a legal system to protect us from those who seek to manipulate that vulnerability.
Purposely misinforming, manipulating and misleading people is a psychopathic dog act and should be described accordingly. |
first sentence fixed, second its psychopathic or arrogant people that do that, the Dog is innocent |
Yes, fair call. Speaking of which, the last of the eight Golden Retriever puppies in the yard at a local council office down the road was sold the other day They were little beauties. _________________ In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
Help Nick's: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/fundraising.htm |
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think positive
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pietillidie wrote: | think positive wrote: | pietillidie wrote: | humans are emotionally vulnerable, sadly we need a legal system to protect us from those who seek to manipulate that vulnerability.
Purposely misinforming, manipulating and misleading people is a psychopathic dog act and should be described accordingly. |
first sentence fixed, second its psychopathic or arrogant people that do that, the Dog is innocent |
Yes, fair call. Speaking of which, the last of the eight Golden Retriever puppies in the yard at a local council office down the road was sold the other day They were little beauties. |
hope they went to good homes and I donr mean the dinner table _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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Wokko wrote: | Nick - Pie Man wrote: | think positive wrote: | David wrote: | I think there's a big difference between The Australian and the Murdoch tabloids, Tannin. The former, as you say, is an unsustainable vanity project. The latter still dominate their markets and do pretty well (well, as well as a print newspaper can be expected to do in this day and age). Rubbish sells. |
You ever think it's your views that might be strange? Yes it sells what makes it rubbish? That's pretty arrogant. Hell of a lot of the population read it. So your in the minority that has superior intellect? It might one be your taste does not make it rubbish |
Why does it bother you so that people who are smarter than you think that what you like is rubbish? |
Dear Luke (That's me),
Thank you for your interest in the test at IQTest.com.
Your general IQ score is: 134
Intelligence Interval Cognitive Designation
40 - 54 Severely challenged (Less than 1% of test takers)
55 - 69 Challenged (2.3% of test takers)
70 - 84 Below average
85 - 114 Average (68% of test takers)
115 - 129 Above average
130 - 144 Gifted (2.3% of test takers)
145 - 159 Genius (Less than 1% of test takers)
160 - 175 Extraordinary genius
I don't think that anybody's personal preferences are rubbish, be they music, newspapers, books, magazines, movies, computer games or television. Those choices may reflect intelligence, upbringing, attention span or general interest but they are never objectively 'better' or 'worse' than someone elses choices. I prefer the Herald Sun to The Age despite it being rather non challenging, I liked the original 'reality TV' (Survivor) and I also enjoy Cheeseburgers (Quarter Pounders to be exact).
As my highly unscientific test results show, I'm quite intelligent but don't fit the world view of a pretentious twat. I have indulged in pretentious twattery at times in my life but happily grew out of it. |
I think it sounds nice to say that everyone's personal preference is of equal quality, but it's demonstrably untrue. You could apply this logic to almost any aspect of society: is hitting yourself on the head repeatedly with a brick as good for your health as exercising and having a balanced diet? Is 2+2=5 as valid a mathematical conclusion as Einstein's theory of relativity? Is The Bold and the Beautiful as interesting and intellectually stimulating as Hiroshima Mon Amour? Isn't it a bit dishonest to suggest that these things are just a matter of taste?
(I got 149, by the way. But I don't think that test is very scientific.) _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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Tannin wrote: | I just re-read what I wrote, and what you wrote is the most absurd and insulting bullshit I ever heard
Wokko wrote: | What unmitigated pretentious crap Tannin. |
Where exactly do you get off, writing such a stupid and offensive comment about a perfectly sensible, fact-based post? I thought you were better than that. |
I was reacting to this casual comment:
Quote: | The Herald-Sun reaches a lot more readers but most of them are poorly-educated and very few of them are in positions of power or influence. |
Re-reading it myself, it probably reads harsher than I intended but the main point stands. |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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David, I think your comments are extremely pretentious.
Except for the comment about the IQ test, I just got 134 and I have a hangover and am struggling to think straight. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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think positive
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Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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David wrote: | Wokko wrote: | Nick - Pie Man wrote: | think positive wrote: | David wrote: | I think there's a big difference between The Australian and the Murdoch tabloids, Tannin. The former, as you say, is an unsustainable vanity project. The latter still dominate their markets and do pretty well (well, as well as a print newspaper can be expected to do in this day and age). Rubbish sells. |
You ever think it's your views that might be strange? Yes it sells what makes it rubbish? That's pretty arrogant. Hell of a lot of the population read it. So your in the minority that has superior intellect? It might one be your taste does not make it rubbish |
Why does it bother you so that people who are smarter than you think that what you like is rubbish? |
Dear Luke (That's me),
Thank you for your interest in the test at IQTest.com.
Your general IQ score is: 134
Intelligence Interval Cognitive Designation
40 - 54 Severely challenged (Less than 1% of test takers)
55 - 69 Challenged (2.3% of test takers)
70 - 84 Below average
85 - 114 Average (68% of test takers)
115 - 129 Above average
130 - 144 Gifted (2.3% of test takers)
145 - 159 Genius (Less than 1% of test takers)
160 - 175 Extraordinary genius
I don't think that anybody's personal preferences are rubbish, be they music, newspapers, books, magazines, movies, computer games or television. Those choices may reflect intelligence, upbringing, attention span or general interest but they are never objectively 'better' or 'worse' than someone elses choices. I prefer the Herald Sun to The Age despite it being rather non challenging, I liked the original 'reality TV' (Survivor) and I also enjoy Cheeseburgers (Quarter Pounders to be exact).
As my highly unscientific test results show, I'm quite intelligent but don't fit the world view of a pretentious twat. I have indulged in pretentious twattery at times in my life but happily grew out of it. |
I think it sounds nice to say that everyone's personal preference is of equal quality, but it's demonstrably untrue. You could apply this logic to almost any aspect of society: is hitting yourself on the head repeatedly with a brick as good for your health as exercising and having a balanced diet? Is 2+2=5 as valid a mathematical conclusion as Einstein's theory of relativity? Is The Bold and the Beautiful as interesting and intellectually stimulating as Hiroshima Mon Amour? Isn't it a bit dishonest to suggest that these things are just a matter of taste?
(I got 149, by the way. But I don't think that test is very scientific.) |
equal quality? LMAO WTF!!
how dare you? personal preference is just that, what that person prefers. your going to judge quality on it? of what? life? you reckon your quality of life is better than mine because I don't watch boring shit on tv that puts me too sleep, and I happen to really like brooke on bold and the beautiful (although I don't watch it anymore, a quick glimpse suggests shes still regularly marrying ridge)
whoever said the following was totally right
"David taking the high road to look down on everyone else"
rattling of the names of obscure films and words nobody uses in real life conversations doesn't make you better than anybody else.
Pull your $£$%^%%$ head in _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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