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Darkstranger 



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:06 pm
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The cautious approach hasn't work so what the hell, play him!
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Collingwood Crackerjack 



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:13 pm
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There's a bit of Andrew Tranquilli about this boy and make no mistake; throw him in and let him show ya what he can do!


WTF. All this over a player who might only play 12 games for us.


What is this comment based on?

Just interested to know.


I think Tranquilli only played 12 games; that being said, his finest game was a cracker against ladder leaders and eventual premiers the Eagles. Unlucky not to play more

Same sort of player as PK in my estimation

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:40 pm
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Bucks says not yet. Needs to work on his consistency and fitness.
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what a load of crap what did we get him for to play in the vfl
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:56 pm
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what a load of crap what did we get him for to play in the vfl


Agree - He kicks 3+ Goals nearly every week. What does he have to do.

Stuff like that does make me Question Bucks as a Coach at times

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I'm sure they'd love for him to be fit enough to name. Kid is coming off OP and a subsequent hammy, still really young with a lot of footy ahead of him. I agree, it'd be lovely to see him debut for the Pies, but I'd much rather it be done when he's ready and able to contribute at that level. Lot of very good VFL footballers never make it at AFL level.
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jackcass wrote:
I'm sure they'd love for him to be fit enough to name. Kid is coming off OP and a subsequent hammy, still really young with a lot of footy ahead of him. I agree, it'd be lovely to see him debut for the Pies, but I'd much rather it be done when he's ready and able to contribute at that level. Lot of very good VFL footballers never make it at AFL level.


Snap.

For mine, the only thing stopping him long term is between his ears. All the tools are there. Short term he needs the fitness which as you say he hasn't had a prolonged run at developing.

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There's no chance he'd be fit enough for seniors.

He has done no pre-season.
Had a handful of VFL games and as his intensity built he did a hammy - no more running

Back to just the 2 VFL games without any fitness base


I think its great he is able to do so well at VFL level without the K's into his legs and this is what looks promising for the future however you couldn't event start him as a sub as he would not give you the run you needed in the last quarter and the last thing he needs right now is only 1 qtr of footy.

IF he can get through another 4 - 5 games of VFL without any issues then he MIGHT get a game as a forward in the seniors however that would depend on his defensive efforts as well as goal kicking


I beg to differ. I reckon he'll be a big chance this week and if not to say he needs another 4-5 is way too conservative. He'll be in sooner rather than later if he stays fit and keeps kicking goals. Hopefully this week.



Point is though he's not fit.
He just isn't. There are players who are fit that are less chance of breaking down.

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MJ23 wrote:
Damien wrote:
MJ23 wrote:
There's no chance he'd be fit enough for seniors.

He has done no pre-season.
Had a handful of VFL games and as his intensity built he did a hammy - no more running

Back to just the 2 VFL games without any fitness base


I think its great he is able to do so well at VFL level without the K's into his legs and this is what looks promising for the future however you couldn't event start him as a sub as he would not give you the run you needed in the last quarter and the last thing he needs right now is only 1 qtr of footy.

IF he can get through another 4 - 5 games of VFL without any issues then he MIGHT get a game as a forward in the seniors however that would depend on his defensive efforts as well as goal kicking


I beg to differ. I reckon he'll be a big chance this week and if not to say he needs another 4-5 is way too conservative. He'll be in sooner rather than later if he stays fit and keeps kicking goals. Hopefully this week.



Point is though he's not fit.
He just isn't. There are players who are fit that are less chance of breaking down.


Well I guess if he's fit enough he'll play and if he ain't he won't.

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Damien wrote:
MJ23 wrote:
Damien wrote:
MJ23 wrote:
There's no chance he'd be fit enough for seniors.

He has done no pre-season.
Had a handful of VFL games and as his intensity built he did a hammy - no more running

Back to just the 2 VFL games without any fitness base


I think its great he is able to do so well at VFL level without the K's into his legs and this is what looks promising for the future however you couldn't event start him as a sub as he would not give you the run you needed in the last quarter and the last thing he needs right now is only 1 qtr of footy.

IF he can get through another 4 - 5 games of VFL without any issues then he MIGHT get a game as a forward in the seniors however that would depend on his defensive efforts as well as goal kicking


I beg to differ. I reckon he'll be a big chance this week and if not to say he needs another 4-5 is way too conservative. He'll be in sooner rather than later if he stays fit and keeps kicking goals. Hopefully this week.



Point is though he's not fit.
He just isn't. There are players who are fit that are less chance of breaking down.


Well I guess if he's fit enough he'll play and if he ain't he won't.



Correct. Form and potential certainly wouldn't be stopping him from playing at the moment. Has both covered !!!

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There's no question about his good form and ability to get his hands on the ball and score goals, but can he endure 4 quarters of afl football where he'll be required to run the length of the ground 5-10 during the game along with everything else in between. The cautious approach is probably the best for PK. He had a delayed preseason and has battled injury throughout this season too. I'm happy for the club to take their time with him. If he makes it through the next few weeks unscathed then I would expect him to maybe come in as a sub perhaps??
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Withdrawn from VFL side.

Highly doubt it means he'll be playing seniors tomorrow though.

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Withdrawn from VFL side.

Highly doubt it means he'll be playing seniors tomorrow though.


My mail is hamstring. He definitely won't be playing seniors if that's the case.

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stui magpie wrote:
swoop42 wrote:
Withdrawn from VFL side.

Highly doubt it means he'll be playing seniors tomorrow though.


My mail is hamstring. He definitely won't be playing seniors if that's the case.


It would be a bold move

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stui magpie wrote:
swoop42 wrote:
Withdrawn from VFL side.

Highly doubt it means he'll be playing seniors tomorrow though.


My mail is hamstring. He definitely won't be playing seniors if that's the case.


Where exactly are you getting this mail from?

If true it looks like another Friday training special for the pies.

Yippee.

Not!

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