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Guts42
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I know its been spoken about before but went down to the vfl on Saturday and the faz playing back isn't a one off experiment.... he will be playing back this year and I wouldn't be surprised if its as early as the swans game and I for one don't mind it.
Our ball use out of the backline is horrible and the faz could give us something. On friday we had brown, frost, maxey, sinkers, toovey and langdon as our backs... not one can hurt you by foot bar the first gamer and he will take a few games to settle in... he played a cracker first up but did make a few blunders and id expect these to be out of his game pretty quick.
The faz is the man... especially short term... I think he has a crack and his skills are sharp and penetrating... the others that will help will obviously be seeds and oxley and in time sharanberg so we do have some players coming through along with langdon that will make us look sharper in the near future... some say young and harry could go back but young doesn't have a defensive bone in his body to defend one on one and H just had one of his best seasons playing on a wing.... time for faz to step up. |
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Darkstranger
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| Just another attempt to change things up, that's what happens when we just don't have real defenders available, Faz isn't hard enough or accountable enough to be a backman. |
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Pebbles Rocks
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Seedsman, Oxley, Scharenberg, Langdon, Reid, Keeffe, Williams, Frost and Toovey are all good enough to be the future for us in the backline. This is going to be a 2 year project to get this part of our team up to speed.
Experimenting with Fasolo, Mooney, Sidebottom etc is worth a go but I think good backlines take time and the names i mentioned at the start are the ones we need to back.
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Guts42
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True but leon was an attempt to change things up... sometimes it works.
I agree with the above.... we need defenders that can defend AND use the ball...langdon the ox and sharanberg (by all reports) will give us this and all at around 190cms... id argue seeds is probably no different to faz... seeds more a wingman and faz the forward but neither probably imagined afl life as a defender but both have attributes to be very good there IF there defensive side improves/is good enough... im happy either way... faz kicking 5 would be more exciting but for now. .. even short term its worth a shot id say. |
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Guts42
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True but leon was an attempt to change things up... sometimes it works.
I agree with the above.... we need defenders that can defend AND use the ball...langdon the ox and sharanberg (by all reports) will give us this and all at around 190cms... id argue seeds is probably no different to faz... seeds more a wingman and faz the forward but neither probably imagined afl life as a defender but both have attributes to be very good there IF there defensive side improves/is good enough... im happy either way... faz kicking 5 would be more exciting but for now. .. even short term its worth a shot id say. |
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Bob Sugar
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Yep, let's turn the one player who's a good set shot for goal into a backman.
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Guts42
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Once we get it out the backline thats the next problem!!
we have a list of players that can play mid/forward.... and yes faz has probably more x factor than most. .. but we are just so poor moving out the backline... maxwell frost ball taking kickouts.... need better than that. |
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Beast
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| Darkstranger wrote: | | Just another attempt to change things up, that's what happens when we just don't have real defenders available, Faz isn't hard enough or accountable enough to be a backman. |
Neither was Leon Davis but he gave us great delivery and good run when moved there. |
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Geek
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| Beast wrote: | | Darkstranger wrote: | | Just another attempt to change things up, that's what happens when we just don't have real defenders available, Faz isn't hard enough or accountable enough to be a backman. |
Neither was Leon Davis but he gave us great delivery and good run when moved there. |
Birchall, Walker, Cooney, Dusty, Delidio a couple of years back, Leon... all of them second rate defenders but with offensive weapons. It's a part of the modern game. If we had a defender like that of our own, then we too could go coast-to-coast every once in a while.
Personally, the idea of Faz down back worries me a bit because he's just get dragged to the dead pocket and scored heavily on by experienced forwards. But in that pratice match, it was soooooo good to see someone with quality footskills moving it around down back. None of this hurried bomb to an opposition player in 20 metres of space. No hospital passes inboard to the 50. And again, if he gets a moment of space and sees a Beams/Dwyer/Sidey/Elliott running into space on the wing, we are almost guaranteed a shot on goal.
Doubt we'll win a flag this year. Let's try it out. |
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MAGPIEAVENGER
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Having Faz down back could be handy.
He has a lot of "X-factor" and pace.
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He would be the only one that can kick the ball 50m+ accurately.
It's worth a shot considering we are currently "re-building" the team.
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RudeBoy
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| I actually suspect playing Fasolo in defence is designed to make him a better and more accountable forward. I seem to recall MM doing the same thing with Daisy. |
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the fuzz
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| Back or forward, if fit, I think he should come in against the swans. What was his game like in the VFL? |
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John Wren 
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | I actually suspect playing Fasolo in defence is designed to make him a better and more accountable forward. I seem to recall MM doing the same thing with Daisy. |
this.
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| Geek wrote: | | Beast wrote: | | Darkstranger wrote: | | Just another attempt to change things up, that's what happens when we just don't have real defenders available, Faz isn't hard enough or accountable enough to be a backman. |
Neither was Leon Davis but he gave us great delivery and good run when moved there. |
Birchall, Walker, Cooney, Dusty, Delidio a couple of years back, Leon... all of them second rate defenders but with offensive weapons. It's a part of the modern game. If we had a defender like that of our own, then we too could go coast-to-coast every once in a while.
Personally, the idea of Faz down back worries me a bit because he's just get dragged to the dead pocket and scored heavily on by experienced forwards. But in that pratice match, it was soooooo good to see someone with quality footskills moving it around down back. None of this hurried bomb to an opposition player in 20 metres of space. No hospital passes inboard to the 50. And again, if he gets a moment of space and sees a Beams/Dwyer/Sidey/Elliott running into space on the wing, we are almost guaranteed a shot on goal.
Doubt we'll win a flag this year. Let's try it out. |
Am I the only one who remembers Leon being a great 1 on 1 defender?
In similar fashion to Fas, I'm really hoping this Mooney experiment can somehow pay off. A lad with his running ability and athleticism coming out of our backline would kill teams if he could somehow develop a bit more football nous. He is the first guy who popped into my head once the Shaw trade got thrown up who could maybe fill his spot if we could bring his game on significantly over the pre-season. Look forward to seeing what he can conjure up in the VFL |
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Guts42
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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| I thought leon was very good 1 on 1... I remember being suprised at how good he was at the beginning. Mooney played back pocket on saturday and didnt look out of place but the team essendon put out was very average |
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