Inside the Liberal cesspit: more corruption exposed

HAL · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:41 am

That is interesting.

Jezza · 2023 PREMIERS! Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Location: Ponsford End

watt price tully · Joined: 15 May 2007

I don't understand why gambling groups donate large sums of money to the liberals when the Libs are formulating policy on gambling.

Surely they're not expecting any influence? God forbid.

Follow the money:

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/follow-the-money-clubs-nsw-donated-to-kevin-andrews-victorianbased-menzies-200-club-20150727-gikryw

Corrupt Liberal party scum

stui magpie · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:20 pm

David · I dare you to try Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda

I'd go as far as to say that the whole system of political donations is inherently corrupt. Full disclosure would be better than nothing, but I'd rather they be banned altogether.

Skids · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:24 pm

Tannin · Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:26 am

101% from me. Do I hear 102%?

watt price tully · Joined: 15 May 2007

Bronny's boo-boo bungles

A fraud by any other name is a fraud

If it looks like fraud, smells like fraud, then by golly it is fraud:

Another 15 travel claims for committee meetings when there weren't any.

This cannot continue. This is fraud.

Her position as speaker & as an MP is untenable.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/30/bronwyn-bishop-expenses-row-historic-claims-reveal-another-15-trips

Wokko · Come and take it. Joined: 04 Oct 2005

Has Bronny gone senile? Was always someone I admired, a woman who made it to the upper reaches of government without quotas or affirmative action and was always a tough, competent performer. I know Tone made her speaker to get her out the way (can't live with her etc) but her behaviour with these travel rorts, considering the large salary and perks a Speaker gets anyway, is just crazy.

HAL · Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:41 am

That question has never crossed my mind before.

regan is true fullback · Joined: 27 Dec 2002 Location: Granville. nsw

let us remember something, in a bipartisan way...

The office of Speaker is not a Ministry. It is an office of Parliament. the nearest equivalent is that of Governor General, Ambassador to London or the Chief Justice. So while it is a normal convention that the Government of the day appoints such offices, they are nominally independent.

Hawkey had a bit of trouble with Hayden overspending as GG. no doubt there were other GGs who acted improperly spending wise, such as Kerr. But as the representative of the Lord's Anointed in this realm, the GG gets privileges that us mere mortals can only wonder at.

The Speaker, on the other hand, is appointed by parliament, not executive government. It therefore behooves the speaker, like the mysterious Black Rod, to maintain a higher standard of behaviour than your average MP.

Bronwyn has not. Her blatant political bias, for a start, would go reasonably well as president of the Liberal Party or Chief Whip, but not as chief arbiter of Parliament. Again, her snout in trough behaviour belittles the office of Speaker, the chief officer of parliament.

regan is true fullback · Joined: 27 Dec 2002 Location: Granville. nsw

Wokko wrote:

David · I dare you to try Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda

Wokko · Come and take it. Joined: 04 Oct 2005

regan is true fullback · Joined: 27 Dec 2002 Location: Granville. nsw

There are good reasons why a speaker should be a member of the Government, such as to prevent filibustering or other unhelpful tactics and to get Government business through. Tony's bully boy tactics during the previous Government come to mind.

However, again, contempt for the opposition, such as exercised by Joh and Lee Quan Yew would surely lead to tyranny. That is why, the Speaker must be someone, although chosen by the current government, that all sides of parliament respect. After all, all members of parliament represent an electorate of people each, all of whom deserve to have their opinion heard.