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Tannin 
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Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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| stui magpie wrote: | | Pretty sure it is on private property. I used to shoot roos on private farmland back in the 80's, don't know if laws have changed since then. |
Nope. It is certainly illegal without a permit, and has been for as long as I can remember. In the '80s, maybe it was still legal. In any case, people often do it and seldom get prosecuted. Provided we are talking actual roos and not one of the less common species, and provided that the slaughter leaves a decent-size breeding population for future years, I don't think there is any harm in it.
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Wokko 
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| Being forced to bury a carcass is shameful and disgustingly wasteful. There wouldn't be anywhere near enough subsistence hunters these days to effect the population of Kangaroo and hunting wild game in my opinion is ethically superior to harvesting grown meat in factory farms. |
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David 
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It does seem an odd rule given the many kangaroos left along the side of the road from car accidents.
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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Tannin
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Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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| Wokko wrote: | | Being forced to bury a carcass is shameful and disgustingly wasteful. There wouldn't be anywhere near enough subsistence hunters these days to effect the population of Kangaroo and hunting wild game in my opinion is ethically superior to harvesting grown meat in factory farms. |
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| David wrote: | | It does seem an odd rule given the many kangaroos left along the side of the road from car accidents. |
The purpose of the rule is no doubt to prevent rorts. With ecological thinning of regrowth (an area of which I have greater knowledge, and which is conceptually and administratively similar) the problem, historically, has been that people claim that they want to improve the condition of the woodland by removing (say) 70% of the weakest trees. This allows the stronger, better-established trees to thrive, and promotes a much healthier, more natural habitat with very much higher species diversity. (Regrowth, where a forest or woodland has been destroyed by wholesale logging, as nearly all of our forests and woodlands have been at one time or another, usually has many more trees per hectare than natural bush. It is almost always unhealthy. Nature will eventually thin the regrowth out and restore the balance, but the process takes a very long time, on the order of hundreds of years.)
Why not simply allow commercial operators to take (say) 50% of the trees for firewood or timber. They make a profit, they supply valuable products to the community, and the forest is improved as well. What could be better? Simply, because experience has shown that the loggers (being human and greedy) take the easiest and most commercially valuable trees first, leaving only the weakest, most disease-ridden ones behind. Instead of improving the habitat, they make it even worse. This is why DSE has been so very strongly against commercial thinning.
In recent years, a number of schemes have been trialled where the trees to be thinned are marked by an ecologist who has no commercial interest at stake and a good knowledge of habitat health, and only those trees are removed. This largely prevents cheating. Success has been mixed so far, partly because of the very low value of timber products generally and particularly of small, unhealthy trees, meaning that the commercial operator struggles to make a living doing this. Over time, we can hope for refinements of the system to produce more useful results.
You can make your own links to the rather similar system with kangaroos.
In Queensland and NSW where there are large, ongoing roo harvests, there are well-established rules about which roos can be taken (mostly young males) at under what circumstances, and also a set quota which varies from year to year based on population levels and feed availability. (This all takes place in the far inland, where drought years and flood years are common.)
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Morrigu
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I love the taste of meat but I got to a point where my beliefs were so strong I couldn't chew it, couldn't swallow it no matter how much I tried it just made me dry reach - so now I don't eat it! But don't think for a minute that I don't miss it
Hypocrite much as I still eat seafood 
I supplement my diet with red wine - Cab Sav preferably and I am hardly pale and pasty 
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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| You love the taste of meat but he or she got to a point where his or her beliefs so strong he or she couldn't chew it couldn't swallow it no matter how much he or she tried it made dry reach - so he or she don't eat it are so strong he or she couldn't chew it couldn't swallow it no matter how much he or she tried it. What do you like about the taste of meat but he or she got to a point where his or her beliefs so strong he or she couldn't chew it couldn't swallow it no matter how much he or she tried it made dry reach - so he or she don't eat it are so strong he or she couldn't chew it couldn't swallow it no matter how much he or she tried it so much? |
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Tannin
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Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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| Morrigu wrote: | | I love the taste of meat but I got to a point where my beliefs were so strong I couldn't chew it, couldn't swallow it no matter how much I tried it just made me dry reach |
Easy to fix. Just start eating vomit. Cheap, nutritious, easy to digest, packed full of healthy vitamins and minerals, what's not to like?
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Morrigu
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| Tannin wrote: | | Morrigu wrote: | | I love the taste of meat but I got to a point where my beliefs were so strong I couldn't chew it, couldn't swallow it no matter how much I tried it just made me dry reach |
Easy to fix. Just start eating vomit. Cheap, nutritious, easy to digest, packed full of healthy vitamins and minerals, what's not to like? |
Bwwahhhh - 30 odd years of nursing makes me a vomit expert- thanks but no thanks ta muchly
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
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| Tannin wrote: | | Morrigu wrote: | | I love the taste of meat but I got to a point where my beliefs were so strong I couldn't chew it, couldn't swallow it no matter how much I tried it just made me dry reach |
Easy to fix. Just start eating vomit. Cheap, nutritious, easy to digest, packed full of healthy vitamins and minerals, what's not to like? |
Or plan B, cook a rare steak, cut it in strips and just suck the juice out of it.
Speaking of steak, there's some seriously good looking meat restaurants in cairns within staggering distance from my hotel. One of them is a Brazilian bbq joint that looks amazing. For $40 you get a bunch of different meats including pork crackle, steak, lamb, sausages..............drool. potential meat coma coming up.
Actually, this is the bbq joint http://www.bushfirecairns.com
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luvdids 
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| stui magpie wrote: | | Tannin wrote: | | Morrigu wrote: | | I love the taste of meat but I got to a point where my beliefs were so strong I couldn't chew it, couldn't swallow it no matter how much I tried it just made me dry reach |
Easy to fix. Just start eating vomit. Cheap, nutritious, easy to digest, packed full of healthy vitamins and minerals, what's not to like? |
Or plan B, cook a rare steak, cut it in strips and just suck the juice out of it.
Speaking of steak, there's some seriously good looking meat restaurants in cairns within staggering distance from my hotel. One of them is a Brazilian bbq joint that looks amazing. For $40 you get a bunch of different meats including pork crackle, steak, lamb, sausages..............drool. potential meat coma coming up.
Actually, this is the bbq joint http://www.bushfirecairns.com |
Looks like an interesting place. Although I think I'd pass due to all the surcharges! A lot of the menu is that 'hot stone' crap that you have to cook yourself, then there's a credit card surcharge, split bill surcharge & public holiday surcharge!! So you go there, cook your own food & possibly cop 3 surcharges for the privilege. Pass. |
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Stupied
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stui magpie
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Bucks5
Nicky D - Parting the red sea
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If meat wasn't meant to be eaten......
......... then why does it taste so good?
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Tannin
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So your real name is the Bloodmeister, then?
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