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London Dave 
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| Morrigu wrote: | MH 370 gave off 6 pings with the last radar point exactly on US military base Diego Garcia.
The Indian Ocean base on the Chagos Islands has been one of the world’s most isolated and controversial military installations since Britain forcibly removed hundreds of islanders in the early 1970s, abandoning them to destitution, to make way for US forces including nuclear submarines and bombers.
Diego Garcia is the strongest US military-air force base in the Indian Ocean. It served as a forwarding base in almost all American conflicts in the Gulf and in Afghanistan. It was also a transit venue for the infamous “extraordinary renditions.” It possesses formidable radar capabilities, as well as several airstrips. And large hangars that can hide aircraft.
Hmmmmm Coincidence ? Conspiracy theory? Bollocks? Was the pilot/highjacker whoever was flying it aiming for here as a terrorist attack? Was it shot down by the Yanks? Will we ever really know what happened? |
That theory is likely to gain a bit of traction over the next day or so...
I've followed it here on Reddit a bit of a 21st century Mary Celeste |
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stui magpie 
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| Tannin wrote: | | David wrote: | | Not to be naively optimistic, but is there any chance the plane could have been landed on some desert island?. |
Brilliant! Now all we need to do is find a desert island with a 10,000 foot runway. |
Dunno about the desert Island but apparently there's 634 runways it could have landed at.
http://project.wnyc.org/runways/
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David 
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stui magpie
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It's possible that they're alive and that the plane landed, but unlikely.
There are places on that map that it could have landed with little scrutiny, but you then have to hide the plane and deal with hundreds of people, get all their mobile communication devices off them and somehow feed and shelter them (assuming you want to keep them alive). All of that takes more manpower than 1 or 2 people.
Then there's motive. If there is a motive to hijack the plane, it's not immediately apparent.
I think it's most likely that the plane is currently at the bottom of the Indian ocean, but stay tuned.
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Certain elements of option 3 aren't so far fetched.
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| MH370 has taken out the "Hide and Seek" Award for 2014. |
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David
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/17/malaysia-airlines-mh370-media-conspiracy-theories
| Quote: | MH370 story is the new anti-journalism
Michael Wolff
Well, the plane is somewhere. Although there exists the eerie possibility that it will remain as if nowhere – forever lost.
And that’s just about the best situation that exists for journalism: “missing” stories trump all others for their intensity and stickiness, fueling the imagination of journalists and audiences alike.
Journalism exists to provide information. But what’s really compelling is a lack of information – or what is more particularly being called “an absence of empirical data”.
“It doesn’t mean anything; all it is a theory.” That was the key quote, from an appropriately unnamed “senior American official,” in the New York Times’ front-page story Sunday about the Malaysian government’s sudden conversion to the idea that their plane was snatched. “Find the plane, find the black boxes and then we can figure out what happened. It has to be based on something, and until they have something more to go on it’s all just theories.”
Precisely!
And everyone is entitled to his or her own their own theory – it’s more democratization of journalism – including, but not limited to:
a) Terrorism; b) mechanical failure; c) hijacking; d) mad or rogue pilot; e) meteor; d) aliens; e) reality show promotion (in this, the 239 passengers and crew would have been in on it – each paid for their performance).
The Tweetdeck column flutters like a deranged stock ticker, as furious as it did for the Woody Allen imbroglio, that other recent spike of obsessive interest in the unknowable.
In a way, it’s anti-journalism.
I am hardly the only stick-in-the-mud to observe that the impending takeover of Crimea, a precise piece of geopolitical logistics and confrontation with a full menu of international implications – journalistic red meat – has been blown away by a story with no evident meaning, other than the likely bleak fate of most onboard.
It is, of course, an ideal story for the current journalism era because it costs nothing. Nobody has to go anywhere. Nobody has to cover the wreckage and the recovery. Not only is the story pretty much all just theories – but theories are cheap.
There is, too, a gotcha element.
Mainstream journalism has tried to be cautious about its claims. It has tried to deny or at least hold the line against the unproven – even when the unproven is obvious.
“…as investigators have examined the flight manifest and looked into the two Iranian men who were on the plane traveling with stolen passports, they have become convinced that there is no clear connection to terrorism,” said the Times on Friday night, even as it became more clear by the end of the weekend that somebody had disabled the plane’s identifying signal mechanisms and diverted it from its route and had flown it somewhere!
Such cautious – or absurd – restraint actually propels the story. That the mainstream media is trying not to deviate from mainstream sources (the recalcitrant, in-denial, shell-shock Malaysian government, and the in-the-dark US authorities) maintains something illogical, which in turn agitates or inspires the counter-media (the conspiracists), which was once marginal, but which is now mainstream itself. After 10 days and counting, mainstream outlets along with the Malaysian government catch up with the story that everybody else was onto anyway.
The plane’s been taken! Grabbed. Stolen. Commandeered.
It was only yesterday that the Times acknowledged the “increasing likelihood that Flight 370 was purposefully diverted and flown possibly thousands of miles from its planned route”.
Part of the problem in the story is language itself. “Terrorism” is implicitly connected to al-Qaida and suggests clear cause and effect and tends to trigger a spasm of maximum responses. So don’t go there until you are sure about going there. Hijacking suggests precise demands and an evident aircraft. Mechanical failure needs a crash site.
What words are left, then? Just: diverted. And vanished.
This may be the first wholly data-driven story. There are no first-hand facts. There are only secondary data implications. And so far it has demonstrated not the strength of data – that new religion – but its weakness.
“What investigators are left with is an hourly electronic ‘handshake’ or digital communication, between the airplane and a satellite orbiting 22,250 miles above the Indian Ocean,” says the Times with some poetry. “But the handshake is mostly devoid of data, and cannot be used to pinpoint the plane’s last known location. It is the electronic equivalent of catching someone’s eye in the crowd.”
The data, in other words, merely reinforces the existential.
Indeed, the most telling data point may be that the plane so artfully slipped through the data filters leaving so few data points.
But the plane is somewhere – that’s the only certain data point.
It is at the bottom of the ocean, sunk without a trace, or in a jungle or rainforest with remarkable discrete pattern or wreckage. Or, it is on the ground somewhere – indeed, may have been on the ground somewhere, re-fueled, and gone somewhere else to land again, whereabouts of 239 passengers and crew unknown. It is a new kind of hijacking in which the plane can’t be stormed or hijackers targeted by sharpshooters because plane and hijackers are invisible. Or, a new kind of terrorism, wherein we wait for the plan to be inserted, undetected, back into the air lanes for what terrible purpose we can only guess.
Just when we start to believe that we know all, that systems track us mercilessly, we find we know nothing, and the plot thickens. |
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On a lighter note:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/malaysian-airlines-expands-investigation-to-includ,35524/
| Quote: | Additionally, the airline confirmed it had expanded its active search area to include a several-hundred-square-mile zone in the Indian Ocean as well as each of the seven or 22 additional spatial dimensions posited by string theory.
“We continue to do everything in our power and explore every possible lead—both Cartesian and phenomenological—to locate the aircraft as quickly as possible,” said Malaysia’s civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, who went on to say that authorities were still actively seeking tips from anyone claiming knowledge related either to the flight, or to the mechanisms by which consciousness arises, or to the question of why anything physical and finite exists instead of nothing at all. |
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| David wrote: | On a lighter note:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/malaysian-airlines-expands-investigation-to-includ,35524/
| Quote: | Additionally, the airline confirmed it had expanded its active search area to include a several-hundred-square-mile zone in the Indian Ocean as well as each of the seven or 22 additional spatial dimensions posited by string theory.
“We continue to do everything in our power and explore every possible lead—both Cartesian and phenomenological—to locate the aircraft as quickly as possible,” said Malaysia’s civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, who went on to say that authorities were still actively seeking tips from anyone claiming knowledge related either to the flight, or to the mechanisms by which consciousness arises, or to the question of why anything physical and finite exists instead of nothing at all. |
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Seriously, they should seek urgent help from some excellent Psychics who practice in some countries, especially in England and the States. Couldn't do any worse....  |
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Lazza
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| David wrote: | | reality show promotion (in this, the 239 passengers and crew would have been in on it – each paid for their performance). |
If this is to be the case, it must be just about the right time to air the first episode. Imagine the sky high ratings, it will be "plane" to see!!!    |
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stui magpie
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| Culprit wrote: | | MH370 has taken out the "Hide and Seek" Award for 2014. |
Still got a long way to go to beat the champ.
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