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Tannin Capricorn

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:49 pm
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Access Ministries, the government-approved provider of religious "education" to government schools must be immediately banned from spreading any more of its evil, backward-looking religious propaganda. Today we learned that Access Ministries has been distributing material to year 6 children telling girls not to go bra-less because "your nipples are much more noticeable and a distraction and temptation for men", that masturbation and sex outside marriage is sinful, that dressing immodestly is invites sexual assault, and that they must never, ever "give in" to homosexuality if that is where their heart leads them. These religious sickos should be immediately banned from all forms of student contact.

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Parents and teachers have called for an urgent overhaul of religious education in schools after year 6 children were given material claiming girls who wear revealing clothes are inviting sexual assault, and homosexuality, masturbation and sex before marriage are sinful.

Students at Torquay College were presented with "Biblezines" as a graduation present at the end of their Christian education program, run by Access Ministries – the government accredited provider of religious instruction in Victorian schools.

The magazines, Refuel 2 and Revolve 2 – which intersperse the text of the New Testament with dating advice, beauty tips and music reviews – warn girls not to go bra-less because "your nipples are much more noticeable and a distraction and temptation for men", and not to wear tube tops and low-rise jeans because men are "sexually stimulated by what they see".

"The Bible says not to cause anyone else to sin. Are you putting sexual thoughts about your body into guys' heads? If you are showing a lot of skin you probably are," it states.
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The material, produced by the News Corp-owned Nelson Bibles, America's largest Christian publishing house, also "exposes the lie of safe sex", claiming that condoms condone promiscuity, and urges those who think they are gay never to act on it.

In response to an agony aunt-style question about, "How far can you go before you are no longer pure?", the document reads: "Let's put it this way: How much dog poop stirred into your cookie batter does it take to ruin the whole batter."

Naja Voorhoeve, whose seven-year-old son was given the Biblezine by an older student who received it at the graduation ceremony, said the magazines were offensive.

"I think it's wrong that anyone should come in and distribute proselytising material, which goes against Department of Education policy. For this to be given out to children by a person who is in a position of authority in their lives, like a religious education teacher, is a travesty."

It comes after Fairfax Media last week revealed hundreds of Victorian principals in primary schools had stopped weekly religious education classes. In the past two years the number of schools delivering "special religious instruction" fell from 940 to 666.

Access Ministries says it did not approve the Biblezines, or their content, and they were a graduation gift from local churches, which normally donate traditional Bibles.

In a statement, chief executive Evonne Paddison said: "This year there was a huge rush for the Bibles and, for reasons we do not yet understand, it seems as though 15 copies of Refuel 2 were handed out. Students were asked to return them on the day . . . Our agreed curriculum teaches the basic beliefs of the Christian faith and does not stray into areas of sexuality at all. We are extremely disappointed that this has occurred and will continue to investigate how it happened."

Torquay College principal Pam Kinsman said it was "really concerning" the material had been distributed and she had asked Access Ministries for an explanation and had received an apology. "We have a strong focus on diversity and respect at our school and as soon as the content of the text was brought to my attention, I immediately said that book will never be distributed again to our students," she said.

An Education Department spokesman said the materials were "totally inappropriate and offensive and have no place in our schools" adding that the department was investigating the matter "alongside the principal".

Joe Kelly, principal of Cranbourne South Primary School – who last week spoke about how he was so concerned about religious indoctrination he has not allowed Access Ministries into his classrooms since 2012 – said the latest revelations reaffirmed his decision.

"This kind of material is disgraceful and this is why I strongly call upon the Education Department to instigate an immediate review of the practices of special religious instruction [SRI] providers with a view to having SRI taken out of our great public schools," he said.

"Our young people are going through the most sensitive period of their development – they don't need to be preached to, they need factual information and a sympathetic ear on the part of caring adults, not people who are going to moralise and judge their behaviour."

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/uproar-at-biblezine-sex-tips-for-kids-20140222-338zn.html
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:53 pm
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:19 pm
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I worry whenever people take a book, written hundreds (thousands?) of years after the events it purports to document, based on nothing more than the current day impression, literally.
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That is something I haven't heard of.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:15 pm
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Access Ministries, the government-approved provider of religious "education" to government schools must be immediately banned from spreading any more of its evil, backward-looking religious propaganda. Today we learned that Access Ministries has been distributing material to year 6 children telling girls not to go bra-less because "your nipples are much more noticeable and a distraction and temptation for men", that masturbation and sex outside marriage is sinful, that dressing immodestly is invites sexual assault, and that they must never, ever "give in" to homosexuality if that is where their heart leads them. These religious sickos should be immediately banned from all forms of student contact.

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Parents and teachers have called for an urgent overhaul of religious education in schools after year 6 children were given material claiming girls who wear revealing clothes are inviting sexual assault, and homosexuality, masturbation and sex before marriage are sinful.

Students at Torquay College were presented with "Biblezines" as a graduation present at the end of their Christian education program, run by Access Ministries – the government accredited provider of religious instruction in Victorian schools.

The magazines, Refuel 2 and Revolve 2 – which intersperse the text of the New Testament with dating advice, beauty tips and music reviews – warn girls not to go bra-less because "your nipples are much more noticeable and a distraction and temptation for men", and not to wear tube tops and low-rise jeans because men are "sexually stimulated by what they see".

"The Bible says not to cause anyone else to sin. Are you putting sexual thoughts about your body into guys' heads? If you are showing a lot of skin you probably are," it states.
Advertisement

The material, produced by the News Corp-owned Nelson Bibles, America's largest Christian publishing house, also "exposes the lie of safe sex", claiming that condoms condone promiscuity, and urges those who think they are gay never to act on it.

In response to an agony aunt-style question about, "How far can you go before you are no longer pure?", the document reads: "Let's put it this way: How much dog poop stirred into your cookie batter does it take to ruin the whole batter."

Naja Voorhoeve, whose seven-year-old son was given the Biblezine by an older student who received it at the graduation ceremony, said the magazines were offensive.

"I think it's wrong that anyone should come in and distribute proselytising material, which goes against Department of Education policy. For this to be given out to children by a person who is in a position of authority in their lives, like a religious education teacher, is a travesty."

It comes after Fairfax Media last week revealed hundreds of Victorian principals in primary schools had stopped weekly religious education classes. In the past two years the number of schools delivering "special religious instruction" fell from 940 to 666.

Access Ministries says it did not approve the Biblezines, or their content, and they were a graduation gift from local churches, which normally donate traditional Bibles.

In a statement, chief executive Evonne Paddison said: "This year there was a huge rush for the Bibles and, for reasons we do not yet understand, it seems as though 15 copies of Refuel 2 were handed out. Students were asked to return them on the day . . . Our agreed curriculum teaches the basic beliefs of the Christian faith and does not stray into areas of sexuality at all. We are extremely disappointed that this has occurred and will continue to investigate how it happened."

Torquay College principal Pam Kinsman said it was "really concerning" the material had been distributed and she had asked Access Ministries for an explanation and had received an apology. "We have a strong focus on diversity and respect at our school and as soon as the content of the text was brought to my attention, I immediately said that book will never be distributed again to our students," she said.

An Education Department spokesman said the materials were "totally inappropriate and offensive and have no place in our schools" adding that the department was investigating the matter "alongside the principal".

Joe Kelly, principal of Cranbourne South Primary School – who last week spoke about how he was so concerned about religious indoctrination he has not allowed Access Ministries into his classrooms since 2012 – said the latest revelations reaffirmed his decision.

"This kind of material is disgraceful and this is why I strongly call upon the Education Department to instigate an immediate review of the practices of special religious instruction [SRI] providers with a view to having SRI taken out of our great public schools," he said.

"Our young people are going through the most sensitive period of their development – they don't need to be preached to, they need factual information and a sympathetic ear on the part of caring adults, not people who are going to moralise and judge their behaviour."

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/uproar-at-biblezine-sex-tips-for-kids-20140222-338zn.html
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Maybe the girls should be wearing a Burka ..... I've always said if you go back into the Bible original teachings they are very strict. If we are going to allow religious instruction then do we only allow moderate Baptist type Christian teachings which are hardly christian at all or do we let the Brethren in with the ladies only teaching girls and wearing head coverings as they do.

Holly Molly it's all or nothing IMO.
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Tannin Capricorn

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:36 pm
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You make a good point, Stui.

We understand that the offensive material was handed out to some students while the rest got Bibles. Actually, some people would suggest - with more than a little justice - that the overall harm in the offending magazines is probably less than that in the other text. For example:


  • Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel. (1 Peter 2:18 )
  • I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. (1 Timothy 2:12)
  • This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’ (1 Samuel 15:3)
  • Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. (Psalm 137:9)
  • Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. (Ephesians 5:22)
  • If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. (Deuteronomy 22:20-1)
  • If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10)
  • If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:13)
  • If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property. (Exodus 21:20-21)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:19 pm
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The "holding the bible between the knees" approach to sexuality, tolerance and pursuit of excellence appears to be part of Christopher Pyne's iGone-skiing educating reforms.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:18 am
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Disgusting. Access Ministries is a dreadful organisation that boasts of its skill in indoctrinating children. What are they doing in any of our children's schools?

This government won't touch them, but when the next ALP government comes around, they need to be thrown on the trash heap. It's totally unacceptable.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:46 am
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even more reason to dislike Rupert Murdoch

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The material, produced by the News Corp-owned Nelson Bibles, America's largest Christian publishing house, also "exposes the lie of safe sex", claiming that condoms condone promiscuity, and urges those who think they are gay never to act on it.


I found the whole thing quite disgusting, the sooner this disgusting mob is out of our schools the better.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:13 am
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What is this, 1950? How can an organisation like this even exist in today's society?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:28 am
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Tannin wrote:
You make a good point, Stui.

We understand that the offensive material was handed out to some students while the rest got Bibles. Actually, some people would suggest - with more than a little justice - that the overall harm in the offending magazines is probably less than that in the other text. For example:


  • Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel. (1 Peter 2:18 )
  • I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. (1 Timothy 2:12)
  • This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’ (1 Samuel 15:3)
  • Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. (Psalm 137:9)
  • Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. (Ephesians 5:22)
  • If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. (Deuteronomy 22:20-1)
  • If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10)
  • If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:13)
  • If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property. (Exodus 21:20-21)


yet, nothing about noticeable nipples. Ah, such liberal times

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:04 pm
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Funny,

Marley makes a mistake, and he should be forgiven and allowed to play.

Access ministries make a mistake and they should be BANNED.

I guess Evonne Paddison isn't that important to our backline.

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What'sinaname wrote:
Funny,

Marley makes a mistake, and he should be forgiven and allowed to play.

Access ministries make a mistake and they should be BANNED.

I guess Evonne Paddison isn't that important to our backline.


With all due respect mate, not in the same stratosphere/

One is a bloke who made a mistake, the other is an organisation trying to impose a set of morals and beliefs on children that are not, IMHO, in step with current society and certainly not in step with beliefs i'd want shoved down my childrens throats.

I respect your beliefs and your right to have them. I went to Sunday school for many years growing up, I enjoyed it, but grew away from religion as I got older. But they never tried any of this sort of stuff. Both my kids participated in RE at primary school, until they asked not to go anymore. They made their choice, no issues. The old bloke who did it was a retired reverend, hell of a nice old guy.

That stuff sounds like USA style Christianity and we don't want none of that shite here. Thank you.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:17 pm
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Marley Williams, to the best of my knowledge, has never tried to abuse children and fill their minds with poison.
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