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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
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I was looking for an appropriate thread to put this in and couldn't find one. It didn't fit in with WTF, funny or amusing, so I thought I'd create a weather related thread for observations, complaints whatever weather related.
To kick off, if you're complaining about it being a bit chilly, aren't you glad you aren't here?
| Quote: | Feeling chilly? Here's cold comfort: You could be in East Antarctica which new data says set a record for "soul-crushing" cold.
Try 135.8 degrees Fahrenheit below zero; that's 93.2 degrees below zero Celsius, which sounds only slightly toastier. Better yet, don't try it. That's so cold scientists say it hurts to breathe.
A new look at NASA satellite data revealed that Earth set a new record for coldest temperature recorded. It happened in August 2010 when it hit -135.8 degrees. Then on July 31 of this year, it came close again: -135.3 degrees.
The old record had been -128.6 degrees, which is -89.2 degrees Celsius. |
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/12/10/antarctica-sets-low-temperature-record-1358-degrees/
Ouch. That would have the brass monkey searching for the mittens.
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think positive 
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Joined: 30 Jun 2005
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Today last year I was in key largo checking out Hemmingways house, in singlet and shorts.
Today I'm just grumpy
$£$%^%%$ global warming my arse
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Wokko 
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| think positive wrote: | Today last year I was in key largo checking out Hemmingways house, in singlet and shorts.
Today I'm just grumpy
$£$%^%%$ global warming my arse |
It's called 'climate change' now because all the global warming models didn't pan out. Doesn't matter anyway because Abbott's cutting climate change so we don't have to worry about it anymore. 
In before someone takes my statement as being a climate change denialist and reams me for views I don't hold. Climate has always changed, the reasons for it are laregly irrelevant and we need to plan how best to manage any climate crisis i.e more dams to increase water supply, farming methods, housing and infrastructure. Australia can't do squat to change what's going on but we should certainly make sure we're ready for it. |
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Tannin 
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This is the hottest year ever recorded in Australia. Ever.
This year also saw the earliest start to the bushfire season ever recorded. Ever.
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Tannin
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More dams do NOTHING to "increase water supply". Get a clue. Rainfall increases water supply.
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Wokko
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| Tannin wrote: | | More dams do NOTHING to "increase water supply". Get a clue. Rainfall increases water supply. |
Not if you don't catch it. The Thomson was built in 1983, our need for more water due to rising population isn't going to end because we find damming rivers suddenly distasteful. I guess if you want to be pedantic then "Increase potential water supply" would be more accurate.
"Can't fill the dams we've got" is usually what comes next. Well is there more water in 11 half filled dams or 10? Another dam means more water available in the system
There are flood prone rivers where fresh water just pours out to sea, meanwhile we spend $3b on a desal plant. |
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Tannin
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Fresh water does not, repeat NOT "just pour out to sea". Where did you go to school? Outflow is crucial to maintaining the health of the seas and without it our fisheries - vital food supply and an important industry - would collapse.
In any case, there are no rivers left to dam, not in any meaningfully useful places. Melbourne and its satellite cities already consumes all the available water from every single river in Western Victoria and all the rivers further east this side of the Gippsland Lakes - which are themselves in very poor condition because of excessive water extraction upstream.
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Wokko
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| Tannin wrote: | This is the hottest year ever recorded in Australia. Ever.
This year also saw the earliest start to the bushfire season ever recorded. Ever. |
"On record" is such a wank. 100 years of records means jack shit. Palaeocene–Eocene Thermal Maximum occurred about 55.9 M years ago. Climate shifts and shifts suddenly through history, in fact we're still on our way out of an ice age.
If we start cooling I'll get shit scared, Ice Ages are no joke, but warming? Periods of warming have been times of plenty. Like I said, prepare for changes in circumstances but lets not be alarmist. |
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Tannin
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Lifted straight from a known climate denial website. I'd say you have outed yourself.
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Wokko
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| Tannin wrote: | | Lifted straight from a known climate denial website. I'd say you have outed yourself. |
The graph is sourced from an academic journal. Here is is again from a different website, I just liked the image on that particular one.
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Tannin
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Dropping temeratures, eh?
Which "academic journal"?
Is it peer reviewed?
Can the editor spell, or even proof-read?
Are the qualifications of the writer (if any) relevant?
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Wokko
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| Tannin wrote: | Dropping temeratures, eh?
Which "academic journal"?
Is it peer reviewed?
Can the editor spell, or even proof-read?
Are the qualifications of the writer (if any) relevant? |
They're not dropping, they're rising but the rise is coming out of an ice age, not climbing into a warming period. Climate imho needs to be looked at on a far broader scope to try and determine where it's going and what we should do to prepare, because we sure as hell aren't going to be able to cool down the planet or (purposefully) warm it up. When you look at climate from a period of millions of years we're in a cold period.
As for the journal:
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think positive
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I don't know about any of that shit, all I know is I went to work in a jumper, and got drenched (was that yesterday?) and then drove home in sunnies and the (car) top down.....
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Sweaty ass jocks today.
Roll on summer! |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
Location: Andromeda
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Alright guys, you've had your summer today. Can we leave it at that?
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