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Dave The Man Scorpio



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:28 pm
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Good on him for being Honest. He was not going to Waste his or our time.

He did not want to play at the Highest Level AFL and stay at VFL Level. That is just Fine.'

We made the Offer but it's up to him.

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He has since given away the VFL and moved out to play for Vermont in the EFL – closer to home and with mates. In the first 15 minutes, he did a knee and missed a season, such is the way football careers can turn.

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That tells me a bit why he did not say Yes to us

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-other-side-of-the-draft-the-man-who-said-no-to-collingwood-20131125-2y5ko.html#ixzz2lkWrJZ5a

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SuperStar Beams Gemini



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:42 pm
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from that article i think its a good enough reason to knock it back.

yes he gives up his dream of playing AFL however at such a financial risk to him and his family is the right call. wish him all the best raising up his expected child and have a good time playing with his mates
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:56 pm
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You have to admire the guy for thinking of his family first and saving the club a lot of time of investing in him when he's heart really isn't in the cause of making it to the highest level.

Good luck to him and his family!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:17 am
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Vermont will pay him well.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:36 am
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What do rookies get paid? Anything?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:42 am
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$53k per year or thereabouts. It's not massive coin, but still above the average Aussie wage of $50k. Not like the rookies are being paid nothing :/
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:45 am
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September Zeros wrote:
What do rookies get paid? Anything?


Some players can earn more coin playing in the VFL.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:50 am
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I understand it.
After having watched his mates being recruited as teenagers, he may well have already accepted in his mind, that he'd never get an opportunity to play at the highest level. Particularly now that he was at the ripe old age of 24. Of course the onset of a family [I know it's not a virus,....but] would've further shifted his focus from footy. Mentally he was over it so a water tight offer was required to have him truly believe!

The question is - Can he live with the stress of 'WHAT IF'?
With a good family/social support network perhaps he could've sacrificed for two years & given it a go?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:26 pm
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You only get one shot at this thing called life. Should've given it a crack. Money is not the be all end all. At least when his kid starts giving him the sh!ts as a teenager he can hit back with: "I gave up a career at Collingwood to have you, you ungrateful kid!"
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:30 pm
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^ Rookies used to be paid $35,000 PA. That has since been lifted to near $50,000 PA.

In his job, I'd say he making much more than that. Substancially more.

I know what you're saying about giving it a shot and money isn't the bees knees; I agree, but you have to be smart with life decisions and at 24 with a girlfriend, a mortgage and a bub on the way odds are he may never make it as a footballer.

I think he's made the right decision in this instance. It's the smarter of the two.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:07 pm
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Your 20s is THE BEST time to make these sorts of calls, regardless of situation. The safe option amounts to a comfortable life, which is nice. But people who get somewhere and take risks, they're the big winners in this world from what I can tell.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:38 pm
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The thing is...

I would do anything to play for an AFL club.

But of all clubs, Collingwood...??

Oh, I would almost lick another mans balls to get that chance!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:09 pm
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24, married, kid on the way and a mortgage, in secure employment earning more than a rookie wage, play KP defender and offered a rookie spot in a team not short of KP defenders.

You have to see where the kid was coming from, that's a massive gamble.

Good on him for putting his family first.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:15 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
24, married, kid on the way and a mortgage, in secure employment earning more than a rookie wage, play KP defender and offered a rookie spot in a team not short of KP defenders.

You have to see where the kid was coming from, that's a massive gamble.

Good on him for putting his family first.


This is a serious issue then for older "rookies" & seems the structure is not a good fit for all. They should adapt it to match individual needs factoring in age, life-stage etc. Say $50 k at 18 but more $ as one gets older. match much he was getting paid at VFL level etc.....

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