Al-Shabab

Culprit · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne

With Al-Shabab killing innocent western civilians what will the west do? Afghanistan was ok to invade; surely Somalia has to be sorted out once and for all.

sixpoints · Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Lulie Street

Have we sorted Afghanistan "once and for all?". Is Iraq "sorted?". So now let's invade Somalia. What happens if Al Shabab knick off to Sudan, I know we can invade them too.
Is this before or after we "deal with" Syria?

HAL · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:27 am

Perhaps.

Culprit · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne

Morrigu · Joined: 11 Aug 2001

^ The USA do!

Originally posted by LD

The annual toll from firearms in the US is running at 32,000 deaths and climbing, even though the general crime rate is on a downward path (it is 40% lower than in 1980). If this perennial slaughter doesn't qualify for intercession by the UN and all relevant NGOs, it is hard to know what does.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/21/american-gun-out-control-porter

Culprit · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne

Gun Shop on every corner.

sixpoints · Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Lulie Street

I think America needs to be invaded. It's the only way to stop the killing there. The citizens of that country need protection. The world can't sit back whilst 30,000 a year die.

stui magpie · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:54 am

hasn't there already been an intervention in Somalia which ousted Al Shabab from control and put in place an elected government?

Nick - Pie Man · Joined: 04 Aug 2010

Drop some neutron bombs and apply a blanket ban on media coverage and the problem will sort itself out.

Tannin · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:02 pm

stui magpie · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:01 pm

Which one? The Italians back in the late 1800's?

At least this last time it was African forces from neighbouring countries under the banner of the UN

3.14159 · Joined: 12 Sep 2009

The USA (under a UN banner) invading a country defended by small arms and RPGs, how hard can that be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIwxJdiPfSU

..Coming soon, Blackhawk Down II.
Coming soon, Blackhawk Down III.
Coming soon, Blackhawk Down IV.
Coming soon, Blackhawk Down V ... etc.

Tannin · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:08 pm

That's the one. It was just part of a massive military land-grab in Africa by the European powers at that time - the British famously invaded nearby Egypt and Sudan at one end of the continent and fought the Boer War at the other end around that same time, the Germans marched in a little to the south, the French were everywhere, the Portuguese were still pretending they had some international relevance and buggerising about with colonies they couldn't afford, even the hyper-bastard King of Belgium - against the clear wishes of his people - was hacking out vast areas of slave-labour jungle empire with the loss of more lives in Africa than Hitler or Stalin took in Europe. Meanwhile, the United States was trumpeting its entire innocence of the filthy European habit of empire building in Africa and simultaneously going to war with both Spain and Philippino nationalists in order to take ownership of the Philippines.

Africa was the last continent to be "civilised" by the West; its "civilisation" at gunpoint was accordingly all the more rapid and brutal, and the consequences today are dire.

OEP · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Location: Perth

stui magpie · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:07 pm