More Islamist peace making.

[CP]

[Skids]

Lunatics... and we keep lettin' �m in.

Same thing will happen here one day.

[Skids]

[think positive]

[think positive]

[swoop42]

The other things that I found totally bewildering about these events were that people are recording such events, show some respect for the victim ffs, that people continued to walk along the footpath where the lunatic covered in blood and holding knives was spouting shit and that the police allegedly took 20 minutes to arrive at the scene.

[watt price tully]

[HAL]

cvnt he is is a cvnt he is. I double dare you.

[Jezza]

This crime is sickening and a disgrace. I'm glad the police were not hesitant in shooting the perpetrators, but it's a pity that they weren't killed there and then. Whoever can justify this crime for political reasons must seriously be messed up.

I do believe that these Islamic terrorists make up a radical minority, but you can't dismiss what has happened here either. I know I'm a bit out there, but elements of Islam are actually disturbing in my opinion, but it's mainly Sharia Law. Ultimately for most terrorists they want to enforce Sharia Law upon Western states, by weakening these states first and then by using Islamic insurgency to take over the land and enforce their beliefs onto everyone else. Sharia Law pretty much suppresses women and children and basic individual rights are restricted. How muslim people can even accept these kinds of laws is beyond me. Maybe I don't understand the Islamic way of life, but they sure as hell don't understand our way of life.

These terrorists lived in England where I'm sure they were raised in a good home and were well-educated, so why were they so influenced and motivated to carry out this attack in the first place. The root cause needs to be identified.

Also credit to the woman confronting the terrorists for their barbaric behaviour.

[David]

As WPT says, this will undoubtedly be used as ammunition for the anti-immigration lobby. That's kind of ironic when you think about it, given the fact that the most significant aspect of this act was how extreme and out of the ordinary it was.

As for Powell's speech, I actually had the chance to read it today (it's been getting around a bit). Apart from his reasonable assertion that multiculturalism may not be without its problems, it's a pretty silly speech � I mean, his story about the poor racist landlady getting chased out of her neighbourhood was probably as hilarious then as it is now.

Still, I don't think picking sides is the most intelligent way of dealing with this topic. I have no more interest in the "If you don't think multiculturalism is awesome, you're a bigot" approach than the "Muslim peril" view taken by the Powell devotees. Perhaps there is reason to discuss multiculturalism more seriously, but in a broader context: is this kind of conflict inevitable? What steps can be taken to avoid it? Is it all worth it? It'd be good to hear someone deal with those issues rather than seeing this as an opportunity to sling mud at the other side.

(By the way, as much as this act was horrific and unjustifiable, I can't help but think back to that thread about War Hero Ben Roberts-Smith 'engaging' enemy combatants � yes, that was a war situation and this wasn't, but those dead Taliban soldiers had parents and possibly spouses and children too. Why the stunning divergence in responses? Could it possibly be because this was 'one of us' and the others were 'one of them'?)

[Morrigu]

This now sadly deceased man was someone's son - maybe someone's husband or partner, maybe someone's father, certainly someone's colleague and hopefully someone's friend - the loss of a life of someone close to us is usually traumatic or painful but this must be just horrific - every time I have heard it " it has been hacked to death" - I can't imagine how much worse this must make it for those who knew him, cared for him and loved him

Brave woman - would like to think I as a nurse would have done the same - who knows though?

Extremists of anything are always dangerous - so if you spout ALL of "insert my personal preference" here are " mad and bad" then you also have the potential to be an extremist! Plenty who have killed in the name of their cause have not been Islamists ( your man who killed what around 80 mainly kids in Norway springs to mind) - knee jerk fear mongering is so not helpful

[schuey07]

[stui magpie]

[David]

Yeah, I think I was under the mistaken impression that he was armed and in uniform.

Still, I'd maintain that people shouldn't take a black and white approach to these matters (e.g. one is unquestionably good and the other is unquestionably bad). Killing is always awful.

[David]