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| David wrote: | Have you considered that the rest of the universe (well, at least, those parts of it with sentient life) might be even worse than here? 
(I do agree with you, by the way. I think it's fair to say we're in furious agreement.  ) |
surely no other species is as stupid, selfish and greedy as the human race
but yes we agree on something!!
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stui magpie 
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And in breaking news, gotta love scientific research. Where can I get a grant to study something like this?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11977121/Women-are-either-bisexual-or-gay-but-never-straight.html
| Quote: | Women are either bisexual or gay but 'never straight'
Most women are either bisexual or gay but "never straight", a study suggests.
"This shows us that how women appear in public does not mean that we know anything about their sexual role preferences"
Research has found that though lesbians are much more attracted to the female form, most women who say they are straight are in fact aroused by videos of both naked men and naked women.
The study, led by Dr Gerulf Rieger from the Department of Psychology at the University of Essex, involved 345 women whose responses to being shown videos of naked men and women were analysed.
The results, which were based on elements such as whether their pupils dilated in response to sexual stimuli, showed that 82% of the women tested were aroused by both sexes.
Meanwhile of the women who identified as straight, 74% were strongly sexually aroused by videos of both attractive men and attractive women. |
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Conclusion: the female form, unlike the male form, produces arousal in all normal humans. You and I, old son, are just lucky that, over the journey, we have met and dallied with the odd abnormal female once in a while. Here's to abnormality!
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stui magpie
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| Tannin wrote: | | Conclusion: the female form, unlike the male form, produces arousal in all normal humans. You and I, old son, are just lucky that, over the journey, we have met and dallied with the odd abnormal female once in a while. Here's to abnormality! |
I'll drink to that.
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| There are some seriously strange people living in this town... |
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| 3.14159 wrote: | | There are some seriously strange people living in this town... |
In all towns!
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Everything about this story; particularly the (in my mind, completely staggering) jail sentence:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/12/gayle-newland-sentenced-eight-years-prison-duping-friend-having-sex
We've had discussions about this phenomenon of "rape by deception" on here before. Basically, my stance is that a) consent has been wholly given, so it's not rape; b) consent was attained fraudulently, making this at best an unethical act and at worst a criminal one; and c) there was a high level of complicity on the part of the victim here – I mean, agreeing to wear a blindfold at all times around her, FFS.
I'm not sure if I would have supported a custodial sentence or even a conviction in this case. But if I did, it would be like 3 months in prison or a community service order. So, 8 years? I'm pretty sure that's more than you'd get if you raped someone on the street at knifepoint. People get less than that for historic child molestation cases. This just seems completely disproportionate.
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That does seem way over the top considering his other sent nacre he's handed out, but the. I think they are to lenient!
You got to wonder the victims state of mind, she must be very needy, very insecure, it's a sad case all round.
And I do agree rape is the wrong word,
I reckon both need an evaluation before a rescission is made
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That's a real hard one because the woman involved gave consent based on a lie. Not just a white lie like "Eh, I got a job and a car wanna root" but a gender. How the woman feels about having same gender sex could be quite a big deal to her.
However, I do believe that the word 'Rape' is being over used. A bloke who had the tip of a stubby poked in his arse is referred to as being raped. A woman who gets a stray hand up the skirt is referred to as being raped.
Over use of the word diminishes it's impact. We don't want to reach the point where rape isn't considered as what it should be, a very serious issue.
So IMHO put a fence around what is Rape and what isn't and call the rest sexual assault or even just assault.
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| stui magpie wrote: | That's a real hard one because the woman involved gave consent based on a lie. Not just a white lie like "Eh, I got a job and a car wanna root" but a gender. How the woman feels about having same gender sex could be quite a big deal to her.
However, I do believe that the word 'Rape' is being over used. A bloke who had the tip of a stubby poked in his arse is referred to as being raped. A woman who gets a stray hand up the skirt is referred to as being raped.
Over use of the word diminishes it's impact. We don't want to reach the point where rape isn't considered as what it should be, a very serious issue.
So IMHO put a fence around what is Rape and what isn't and call the rest sexual assault or even just assault. |
Yeah the stubbie one is on big footy. The guy was asleep, it's certainly an assault, and a pretty disgusting one, he sure has some shabby friends.
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| stui magpie wrote: | That's a real hard one because the woman involved gave consent based on a lie. Not just a white lie like "Eh, I got a job and a car wanna root" but a gender. How the woman feels about having same gender sex could be quite a big deal to her.
However, I do believe that the word 'Rape' is being over used. A bloke who had the tip of a stubby poked in his arse is referred to as being raped. A woman who gets a stray hand up the skirt is referred to as being raped.
Over use of the word diminishes it's impact. We don't want to reach the point where rape isn't considered as what it should be, a very serious issue.
So IMHO put a fence around what is Rape and what isn't and call the rest sexual assault or even just assault. |
I agree, though I guess that's more of a semantic question than one of criminal sentencing. I'm not actually certain that this woman was convicted of rape.
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