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| stui magpie wrote: |
Even the signs are very similar, main difference would be the Coke user has a runny nose
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The main difference is the price and the availability.
Ice is cheap and be made in a blazing garage.
Coke is extremely expensive and (was) difficult to get.
Back before the Afghan invasion (around 2000) the authorities thought they were winning the war on Heroin and coke.
They were sort of right, but for the wrong reasons.
Heroin dried up because the Taliban were trying to deal to let them import US weapons in exchange for stopping the exports and new survailance techniques were stopping and/or catching coke from south America.
New drinking laws and much tougher road checks and higher taxes were discouraging strong drinking particularly late at night.
People want/need to do something to alter their mind states so they turned to speed.
New refining techniques lead to development of ice.
The internet gave millions of people access to the knowledge to make a meth lab and what chems were/are needed and how to obtain them.
Dancing all night was flourishing but drinking was out so ice stepped in.
Bingo!
The War started and the opium began flowing again.
The market had taken a dip, so it flooded in and the price dropped.
Sth America followed suit
People on H or ppl who smoke weed really just want to be left alone to sleep or chill out.
The problem is the cost makes them do serious crime to support a seriously expense habit.
Ice ramps the user up to a state where they just can't control themselves and have very little idea of the real world really is like.
Ice addicts are mental cases because that is what happens when you stuff seriously strong stimulants through the blood stream and brain (or what remains of it).
They war on drugs wan't won, it just went up a few notches (to a point where doctors are longing for the good ol days of basically dealing with an unconscious person that just needed to be woken up...or not.
I know of at least 4 people in this small town of 1500 that sell ice or can get in a heart beat.
Heroin is here but the market is small.
Prior to 2000 that would have been impossible.
(Hell I knew of a bloke that caught a taxi from Geelong to Stkilda to score smack once a fort-night).
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Dope smokers only have one real problem, they have to deal with crims to have a calming smoke at night but if they have the means (or local) they can get around that...err except that wanting to have a quiet smoke at home makes them criminals anyway.
People through out recorded history have turned to drugs to alter their minds states in one way or the other.
If this country wants to get serious about the damage drugs do, they are going to have to get realist (not to mention rational) about the way it is being fought and who it is being fought against.
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stui magpie 
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Good stuff there mate. I've done weed and booze but nothing else and never had any desire to, particularly stimulants. 1 coffee in the morning and a coke zero with lunch is ample stimulation for me. I drink to make my brain shut up, last thing I'd want would be to amp up the volume while making it more bizarre.
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I tried ice once and I think I went through two strips of Nurofen as I was coming down and I was fighting off the urge and want for more hit me. I knew what it was and just slept it off but I've never wanted anything so much.
Those few hours I was up were amazing btw but I would not advise anyone to try it ever. |
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| stui magpie wrote: | ^
Good stuff there mate. I've done weed and booze but nothing else and never had any desire to, particularly stimulants. 1 coffee in the morning and a coke zero with lunch is ample stimulation for me. I drink to make my brain shut up, last thing I'd want would be to amp up the volume while making it more bizarre. |
Thanx Stui.
Life is 1 shot!
It's too short (and stimulating) to waste on reality that only exists in ones own head and the chemicals poisoning it..
Farknuckles that think drugs are a viable alternative to reality are delusional.
It damages them, their families and all those caught in the cross fire.
LIke the last time I posted something like this, I don't care who has read it (or what they make of it)
I will edit it because it is personal |
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| 1061 wrote: | I tried ice once and I think I went through two strips of Nurofen as I was coming down and I was fighting off the urge and want for more hit me. I knew what it was and just slept it off but I've never wanted anything so much.
Those few hours I was up were amazing btw but I would not advise anyone to try it ever. |
can I ask why did you try it? |
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| 5150 wrote: | Drove past a famous Chapel St club which has a massive sign out the front...
POOF DOOF - a gay club for homos...
If I called a patron of that club a poof or homo, would they have the right to be offended? |
Couldn't be as weird as driving past a place called ISIS Hairdressers! 
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Let me guess: Egyptian? 
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| David wrote: | | Let me guess: Egyptian? |
The place is actually abandoned now but the sign is still existent.
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| Woods Of Ypres wrote: | | 1061 wrote: | I tried ice once and I think I went through two strips of Nurofen as I was coming down and I was fighting off the urge and want for more hit me. I knew what it was and just slept it off but I've never wanted anything so much.
Those few hours I was up were amazing btw but I would not advise anyone to try it ever. |
can I ask why did you try it? |
Someone I was close to was using ice so I thought I can't argue any points against it's use if I don't know what it's about.
Doing that small bit of it opened my eyes to just how strong a grip it can have in such a short time frame. Didn't help the arguments though. |
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| watt price tully wrote: | Is Tannin a biblical sea Monster or a new submarine?
Israel's newest Submarine is called Tannin 
The newest addition to the Israeli submarine fleet is entering her new home – an Israeli port. The I.N.S Tannin (named after the biblical sea monster) is sleek and mysterious, even more so than her older sisters; she is also much more technologically advanced than her older sisters....
http://www.jpost.com/Not-Just-News/From-a-former-submariner-Mazel-tov-to-the-Israeli-navy-376177
I knew the coach was doing something on the side!! |
Tannin has always had an interest in exploring dark and dank places under water.
This was most evident during his formative years when he would allow Aqua man to explore his crevice during bath time.
A just reward.
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| swoop42 wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | Is Tannin a biblical sea Monster or a new submarine?
Israel's newest Submarine is called Tannin
The newest addition to the Israeli submarine fleet is entering her new home – an Israeli port. The I.N.S Tannin (named after the biblical sea monster) is sleek and mysterious, even more so than her older sisters; she is also much more technologically advanced than her older sisters....
http://www.jpost.com/Not-Just-News/From-a-former-submariner-Mazel-tov-to-the-Israeli-navy-376177
I knew the coach was doing something on the side!! |
Tannin has always had an interest in exploring dark and dank places under water.
This was most evident during his formative years when he would allow Aqua man to explore his crevice during bath time.
A just reward. |
Lol! I actually chuckled!
Found out last night a kid I met last summer, in foster care, he's only 15, sweet kid, or so he seemed, mum in prison, dad hooked, and he's now on ice. So out of foster care and in some kind of share house. Poor kid. So terribly sad. $£$%^%%$ evil stuff.
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| swoop42 wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | Is Tannin a biblical sea Monster or a new submarine?
Israel's newest Submarine is called Tannin
The newest addition to the Israeli submarine fleet is entering her new home – an Israeli port. The I.N.S Tannin (named after the biblical sea monster) is sleek and mysterious, even more so than her older sisters; she is also much more technologically advanced than her older sisters....
http://www.jpost.com/Not-Just-News/From-a-former-submariner-Mazel-tov-to-the-Israeli-navy-376177
I knew the coach was doing something on the side!! |
Tannin has always had an interest in exploring dark and dank places under water.
This was most evident during his formative years when he would allow Aqua man to explore his crevice during bath time.
A just reward. |
Have we been watching the same films?
http://youtu.be/IkKdzYw0eGs
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Admittedly, a bit hard to carry a Myki in that attire.
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