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Funkadelic
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Good read OEP thanks for that. Interesting he's spent time as a defensive coordinator, skip bayless( although he's a bit crazy he's seems to know his football) said hes the smartest guy who can figure out the defense and how to best navigate it. Wow your 49'ers are an impressive club, seem to have hit that sweet balance of the present and the future.
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It's a slow news day for the NFL. So, here's something slightly different.
I have long watched (and re-watched) and admired the 1970s Steelers and the 1980s 49ers. Every time I think about which team had the greatest starting offensive talent, I get confused and change my mind.
So, you're Mike Holmgren. You're choosing your offensive backfield for the Pack. You already have your star 45 year-old QB  but you are spoiled for running back and receiver choices, all at the peak of their respective powers.
Do you take:
(a) Swann, Stallworth, Bleier and Harris; or
(b) Rice, Taylor, Rathman and Craig?
Which is your choice - and why? |
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punkologist 
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| I'm a bit late in on this thread but what's your take on DJ Hayden for the Raiders OEP? I like the look of him. Would be a fairy tale if he makes it. |
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Dave The Man 
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Very Intresting the Bill Bellichek and The Patriots have Signed Tim Tebow.
Though they where the Team to Draft him in his Draft Year
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| Dave The Man wrote: | Very Intresting the Bill Bellichek and The Patriots have Signed Tim Tebow.
Though they where the Team to Draft him in his Draft Year |
I wonder about the logic behind this. Perhaps the Pats are trying to improve their receiving corps by having him throw (bad) passes to them at training. He couldn't possibly start unless Brady had both arms broken (and you'd think twice about putting Tebow in, even then). |
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OEP
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | It's a slow news day for the NFL. So, here's something slightly different.
I have long watched (and re-watched) and admired the 1970s Steelers and the 1980s 49ers. Every time I think about which team had the greatest starting offensive talent, I get confused and change my mind.
So, you're Mike Holmgren. You're choosing your offensive backfield for the Pack. You already have your star 45 year-old QB but you are spoiled for running back and receiver choices, all at the peak of their respective powers.
Do you take:
(a) Swann, Stallworth, Bleier and Harris; or
(b) Rice, Taylor, Rathman and Craig?
Which is your choice - and why? |
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice question.
Going purely on the stat's it was close between both FB's and no.2 WR's, both were comparable in both rushing / receiving yards, average per attempt yards, and touchdowns.
The difference between the two RB's total yards looks great but when you take into account average yards per rush it evens out allowing for the extra years Harris played for. The difference between the two is that Harris had a average 7 TD's per year while Craig had 5.1 (rounded up) giving Harris a slight edge, but (and there's always a but  ) Craig was the greater factor in the passing game doubling Harris's total career reception yards and (nearly) career receiving TD's, while also having a slightly better yards per catch stat. Given this I'd give this one to Harris just based on the fact their RB's so the greater emphasis should be on their rushing stat's with receiving being a bonus. Also Harris was a 9 time Pro-Bowler while Craig was a 4 time Pro-Bowler.
Now we come to the premier WR's, being John Stallworth and Jerry Rice (all bow down to the great one - NOW). This is where the great divide occurs because Rice's career stats for total receptions, receiving yards and total TD's are better than Stallworth's and Swann's combined (and by a fair margin), while his career yards per catch is only slightly shorter than either Swann's or Stallworth's. Add to this Rice was a 13 time Pro-Bowler  and Stallworth was a 4 time Pro-Bowler and Swann a 3 time Pro-Bowler.
Given all this it stands to reason the Rice, Taylor, Craig and Rathman are the better combination, and the fact I'm a die-hard 49ers fan
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OEP
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| punkologist wrote: | | I'm a bit late in on this thread but what's your take on DJ Hayden for the Raiders OEP? I like the look of him. Would be a fairy tale if he makes it. |
None of the CB's in the 2013 draft had elite written on them, including the best CB Milliner.
DJ HAYDEN is a great story given the fact in 2012 he tore his inferior vena cava, a major vein in his heart during a training incident (this injury has a 95 percent fatality rate) and was still drafted in the 1st round in 2013.
That being said at only 5'11" and 192 pounds I don't see him ever being able to handle the big elite receivers like Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Julio Jones, etc. He's just to undersized and even if he adds weight he won't be any taller.
Personally I think he'll become a very good CB in the near future who'll be kept away from the high end WR's and stationed on the no.2 or no.3 WR's.
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OEP
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | Very Intresting the Bill Bellichek and The Patriots have Signed Tim Tebow.
Though they where the Team to Draft him in his Draft Year |
I wonder about the logic behind this. Perhaps the Pats are trying to improve their receiving corps by having him throw (bad) passes to them at training. He couldn't possibly start unless Brady had both arms broken (and you'd think twice about putting Tebow in, even then). |
As I've said before the Pat's are savvy operators and I'm sure they have a plan in mind for Tebow but I'll be damned if I know what it is. As P4S has correctly pointed out the Pat's would be loath to use Tebow in any passing situations even if Brady were injured.
My only real guess on this one would be to use him as a RB or WR or in trick plays, but even that seems pretty left field.
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Dave The Man
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Patriots have a Alleged Murder on the Roster
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Pies4shaw
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Well, not quite, DTM - if you read the link OEP has provided, you will see that the Pats released him as soon as he was arrested. So, technically, he was released before he was charged with murder. According to ESPN, he has now been charged: http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9424056/aaron-hernandez-new-england-patriots-charged-murder
I would say, though, that the Pats now have a real problem at tight end for 2013, with Hernandez gone and Gronkowski under the knife. I'm not sure, though, whether or not that's the most important thing to take from this story!
According to that ESPN article I've linked above, 28 NFL players have been arrested (not, of course, all for such serious alleged crimes) since the Superbowl. That's more than 1 per week. |
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Funkadelic
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Heavy stuff. Don't know what to think really, these guys play a pretty violent game, they are required to be in such a hyped state of mind for half the year and then have to turn that off for 3 months, has to be tough. Don't get me wrong some of these charges are very serious, just trying to understand I guess
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Fantasy Football is officially open, just in case anyone is interested.
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