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David 
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Wonderful photo series, Stui really shows a side of life there that we rarely see or think about. A pretty stark contrast to the grim lives of those in the provinces and prison camps, undoubtedly.
I'm not sure if I'd ever want to risk visiting North Korea as a tourist, but if I did, this amazing abandoned building would be destination #1:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryugyong_Hotel
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David
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Culprit 
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| NK keep poking the bear and are waiting for a backlash. Japan is showing great restraint. |
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David
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I'm not sure Japan really has any other option. One thing for Trump to talk tough over in Washington DC, but Japan is right in the firing line if anything goes wrong.
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HAL
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Pies4shaw 
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| David wrote: | | I'm not sure Japan really has any other option. One thing for Trump to talk tough over in Washington DC, but Japan is right in the firing line if anything goes wrong. |
Well, just under the firing line, by the looks of things.  |
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Jezza 
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They're itching for a war...
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Tannin 
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| Jezza wrote: | | They're itching for a war... |
No they are not. War is the very last thing they want. What they are itching for is the fear of a war. The incumbent regime cannot survive without keeping their people whipped into a near-frenzy of fear and machismo. (Same idea as Abbott-Trumble-Dutton constantly pretending that terroism is an existental threat to Australians, actually. But Kim Jong-un is much better at it.)
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stui magpie 
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Keerect.
But poking japan is next level dumb.
Given Nth Korea's track record with missiles, we can't know for sure where the hell that thing was supposed to land, it could have easily ploughed into a Japanese city whether it was aimed there or not.
Japan will be thinking about that very carefully and the consequences of going pre-emptive. Don't worry about Australia in this argument, between Sth Korea and japan there's 170 million people dead smack in the firing line, their governments won't cop this much longer if a legitimate option arises. Then the fun will start, and finish, very quickly.
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Shame it didn't take out the nippons whaling fleet!!
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Tannin
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^ Agree with both of you.
We need to remember, however, that the real power here is China. China could shut them down at the stroke of a pen, but they don't want to. China wants the US (and other countries) distracted and preoccupied so they can get on undisturbed with building illegal artificial islands full of missiles and bribing and subverting African and Pacific nations. China is playing a very deep game here.
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stui magpie
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China is historically good at playing the deep game, Japan is only brash in comparison but Japan has also placed a higher value on pride and honour.
I don't think Japan will fear China but the whole area should fear a pissed off Japan.
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Mugwump
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| Tannin wrote: | ^ Agree with both of you.
We need to remember, however, that the real power here is China. China could shut them down at the stroke of a pen, but they don't want to. China wants the US (and other countries) distracted and preoccupied so they can get on undisturbed with building illegal artificial islands full of missiles and bribing and subverting African and Pacific nations. China is playing a very deep game here. |
^ quite so, though I'm not sure the game is that deep.
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