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David 
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| Neil Appleby wrote: | | junior league players watch and then copy the behaviour of their AFL role-models. |
I think that's definitely the point in contention here, and it's the assertion that I view extremely skeptically. While on-field behaviour may be another matter, there is little evidence to suggest that players' off-field behaviour has the same effect, and plenty of evidence suggesting otherwise. Thus, I think 'influence' is still an unhelpful term in this context.
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pietillidie
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^Yes, but because influence is a fully gradable term, much like significance in statistics, you can just say they have "little to no influence" and argue the point. In contrast, the term "role model" is laden with many dubious assumptions and is hard to grade as it's largely binary (yes/no and good/bad).
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neil 
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| Neil Appleby wrote: |
BTW I think it pertinent to note that it's only some journalists who push the role-model line. Interestingly, every time we get poor on-field behaviour or even when there is dissent at poor umpiring, we are told strong action is necessary because of the trickle down effect; junior league players watch and then copy the behaviour of their AFL role-models.
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Its the AFL footballers fault not the obnoxious behavior of some parents at local football matches.
Or that some children have been raised to be arseholes.
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stui magpie 
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| pietillidie wrote: | | ^Yes, but because influence is a fully gradable term, much like significance in statistics, you can just say they have "little to no influence" and argue the point. In contrast, the term "role model" is laden with many dubious assumptions and is hard to grade as it's largely binary (yes/no and good/bad). |
Which means you can't be absolute in your assertion that footballers can't be /aren't role models.  
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