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Proud Pies 
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and then you get the crazy man in China who also attacked 22 children at a primary school this morning.
Big difference - he had a knife.
Number of dead?
ZERO
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Brenny
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My mate who lives in Canada, told me about 15 mins ago that already people in the US are calling for change... by allowing teachers to carry guns...
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Proud Pies
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| Brenny wrote: | | My mate who lives in Canada, told me about 15 mins ago that already people in the US are calling for change... by allowing teachers to carry guns... |
yep and they are allowed in Michigan. Michael Moore tweeted this earlier:
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Just 18 hrs ago, those Republicans in the Michigan House rammed thru a bill making it LEGAL to carry a gun into a school or day care center. |
and all the loonies are coming out saying, if the teachers/children had been allowed to have guns then this wouldn't have happened. Yeah right - morons.
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David 
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^ At least they're trying to propose solutions. The trouble is that there are only two: 1) tighter regulation; and 2) more guns. The second one's batshit insane, obviously, but common sense doesn't seem to be very prevalent over there.
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jack_spain 
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These whacky solutions all miss the point.
We need comprehensive genetic screening to eliminate psychologically defective people from the gene pool before they can strike. And we need to reopen mental institutions and lock people up again. If that is seen as too harsh, then put them to sleep.
You think that's "out there" now. Don't. It will happen in the future. People will demand it. Humanism is dead, and we killed it (that is in essense what Nietzsche meant when he said, "God is dead and we have killed him.") Most people haven't woken up to that fact of history yet. But the future of our world depends on it. |
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Bruno
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This is shocking.
So much for the idea they need lax gun laws so people can protect themselves. As another poster noted, what's next, arming all children with weapons? "They are people too, so why shouldn't they also protect themselves" the crazy's will say.
If ever there was a time for them to tighten gun laws it is now. Obama doesn't have to face another election. Also, I can't see any Republican candidate standing any sort of chance against Hillary Clinton (with Bill by her side) in 2015 and 2018.
The Democrats have 9 years to make this happen. No, it likely wont happen during Obama's term (these things take time + he has an unfriendly Hill) but he should set the ground work for Clinton who can then finish the job. |
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Collingwood 4 eternity
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For the land of the free and the home of the brave
It's time to rethink your gun laws
This is very sad
Pic form twitter
So true
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HAL
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| Bruno wrote: | This is shocking.
So much for the idea they need lax gun laws so people can protect themselves. As another poster noted, what's next, arming all children with weapons? "They are people too, so why shouldn't they also protect themselves" the crazy's will say.
If ever there was a time for them to tighten gun laws it is now. Obama doesn't have to face another election. Also, I can't see any Republican candidate standing any sort of chance against Hillary Clinton (with Bill by her side) in 2015 and 2018.
The Democrats have 9 years to make this happen. No, it likely wont happen during Obama's term (these things take time + he has an unfriendly Hill) but he should set the ground work for Clinton who can then finish the job. |
Right now? That is only a hypothetical. |
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HAL
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| Collingwood 4 eternity wrote: | For the land of the free and the home of the brave
It's time to rethink your gun laws
This is very sad
Pic form twitter
So true
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Your purpose is the land of the free and the home of the brave
It's time to rethink your gun laws
This is sad Pic form twitter
So true [img]httpspbs. |
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David
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| jack_spain wrote: | These whacky solutions all miss the point.
We need comprehensive genetic screening to eliminate psychologically defective people from the gene pool before they can strike. And we need to reopen mental institutions and lock people up again. If that is seen as too harsh, then put them to sleep.
You think that's "out there" now. Don't. It will happen in the future. People will demand it. Humanism is dead, and we killed it (that is in essense what Nietzsche meant when he said, "God is dead and we have killed him.") Most people haven't woken up to that fact of history yet. But the future of our world depends on it. |
Or, they could just take dangerous weapons out of public circulation. Far less controversial and far more practical.
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| jack_spain wrote: | We need comprehensive genetic screening to eliminate psychologically defective people from the gene pool before they can strike. And we need to reopen mental institutions and lock people up again. If that is seen as too harsh, then put them to sleep.
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That would be everyone Jacky. Don't think that you aren't capable of shooting up a school. Put anyone in the right circumstances and they would do the same thing. |
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Nick - Pie Man
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| And blaming 'defective genes' is just a copout. The man who did this was just as capable of making rational decisions as you or I. |
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HAL
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| What was the man wearing? |
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swoop42 
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
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Once again you can be sure that the blame will be laid squarely on the individual shooter and not the dangerous gun culture and weak gun control laws that allows civilians to arm themselves with all types of sophisticated weaponry.
Will they ever learn.
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John Wren
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but guns don't kill people .... so i am constantly told.
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