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MattyD
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Location: Kew
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Jezza wrote: | Heinken is my favourite but the ones I do drink are:
Coronas
Carlton Draught
James Boag
VB
Carlton Dry
Tooheys Extra Dry
VB
Fosters
Guinness
However in saying this I'm not a heavy drinker. |
I'd be lucky to have 3 beers a week, usually watching the footy...
But I think Heikenens are my drink at the moment.
Can anyone explain the problem with "brewed under licence"?
I bought imported Heikenens the other week by accident and I think they tasted better than locally brewed.... I didn't realise they were locally brewed.... |
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Tannin
Can't remember
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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Great beers evolve over time and become popular because they combine a particular set of ingredients in a particular way. Then the company sells the name and the recipe to some other company, but two things change:
1: the ingredients are never quite the same. The local brewer will be getting a different variety of hops, or barley grown in a cooler climate or on different soil or with a longer growing season ..... any of dozens of different things that change the flavour. Here in Ballarat when I worked for CUB, we made Carlton Draught for sale on-tap in western Victoria. The experts there swore blind that the CD we brewed in Ballarat was noticably better than the CD coming out of Abbotsford, even though it was brewed using the exact same ingredients (bulk buy for both breweries - same farms, same everything) and very similar equipment in the exact same way. I'm not entirely sure that my opinion is too useful (I'm not a big drinker) but they were the experts and I believed them. The beer was different. The reason? Different water.
2: the local marketing scumbags fiddle with the recipe to make it "more suitable for the local market" - i.e., more like whatever swill it is that the locals usually drink. This is why US brewed under licence Fosters is so bad - they changed the recipe to make it taste more like American beer. (As if Fosters isn't a poor enough beer already!)
PS: we made Carlton Draft in Ballarat, but the Ballarat Bitter was brewed in Melbourne. Go figure! _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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tcnthat
Joined: 25 Jun 2007
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Boags premium if I am In Oz, Heineken if I am OS. But that said I am partial to beer and will go for almost any port in a storm. (no pun intended) _________________ Black. White. Forever. |
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ronrat
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: Thailand
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Beer Lao
Chang
Singha Light
Bintang
Cascade Light
Tiger Lite
Tiger
and most beers with a Czech history. Polish beers can be ok as are german and some Belgian.
The James Squires and Little Creatures stuff is ok as well. _________________ Annoying opposition supporters since 1967. |
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watt price tully
Joined: 15 May 2007
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I rarely drink these days however:
Use to love VB but find it too acidic these days.
Asian beers - I like Asanti or ashanti or something like that
I had another Japanese beer I can't recall the name of (but cost a fortune when I was paying for my daughters 20th a while back for a group of us & her boyfriend kept ordering these - mind you when he builds me the wood fired oven in the backyard all will be forgiven)!!
Carona
I've got a bottle of Blue Tongue beer in the fridge for the last few months that I should try - mate says it's good! _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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pietillidie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005
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pietillidie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005
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ronrat wrote: | Beer Lao
Chang
Singha Light
Bintang
Cascade Light
Tiger Lite
Tiger
and most beers with a Czech history. Polish beers can be ok as are german and some Belgian.
The James Squires and Little Creatures stuff is ok as well. |
I've had Tiger quite a bit across Asia. The Vietnamese beers are pretty good, too. _________________ In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
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5150
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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pietillidie wrote: | ^Was that Japanese beer Suntory Premium? |
Kirin and Sapporo are two others. Yeah they can get expensive when drinking them out.
One shout I got was 3 x big Sapporo (650ml) steel cans which cost me $52... |
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stoliboy
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Sydney, NSW
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Coopers: Pale Ale and Sparkling
Carlsberg
Tuborg
Kronenberg
Bruges Zot
Palm
Kwak
Tsingtao
Tiger
Halida
Beer Lao
VB _________________ Sydney Collingwood Supporters Club
http://sydneymagpies.magpies.net/ |
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luvdids
Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Location: work
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When I do drink beer, it's usually Carlton Draught. If I'm out and that's not available, I'll generally have Stella Artois (I think mainly because I then go on with the "stelllla stellllla" from seinfeld!) but there's been no love for Stella?? |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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How does it taste? |
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tcnthat
Joined: 25 Jun 2007
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luvdids wrote: | When I do drink beer, it's usually Carlton Draught. If I'm out and that's not available, I'll generally have Stella Artois (I think mainly because I then go on with the "stelllla stellllla" from seinfeld!) but there's been no love for Stella?? |
Not so much in Australia, but in Europe Stella has a rep for being a bit of a head banger. That's why it sometimes gets called 'wifebeater'. It can sneak up on you and before you know it, you're horizontal. _________________ Black. White. Forever. |
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punkologist
Barwick goals, the pies are home!
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Location: Level 2 Ponsford Stand
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Tannin wrote: | In mass-market beers: Cascade, Boags, XXXX, Tooheys Old, then anything except that South Australian muck.
More specialist beers, well, lots of variety is good, I'll try anything but I like Fat Yak.
Many of the European beers are good (all the usual suspects apply).
Americans don't make beer, they make awful muck that I wouldn't scrub the bottom of a parrot's cage out with. Well, there are probably some decent ones, but Millers is carp and Bud is appallingly bad. I've drunk better home brew than Bud. Hell, I've spat out and vomited better than Bud. |
They have a huge craft beer market in America now, some very very good beers there. Agreed that their mass produced beers are no good, neither are ours. |
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punkologist
Barwick goals, the pies are home!
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Location: Level 2 Ponsford Stand
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I have quite a few favourites, it varies depending on my mood or the weather or what is available.
I will only drink VB or Carlton draft as an absolute last resort when there is nothing else available. Terrible, terrible beer.
Lately I have been into:
Mountain Goat Steam Ale
James Squire pale ale or golden ale.
Mornington Peninsula amber ale
Fat Yak (available in more places than the above)
Little Creatures
Mclaren Vale Ale
Tiger beer is a favourite too, especially when I'm in Asia. |
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punkologist
Barwick goals, the pies are home!
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Location: Level 2 Ponsford Stand
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watt price tully wrote: | I rarely drink these days however:
Use to love VB but find it too acidic these days.
Asian beers - I like Asanti or ashanti or something like that
I had another Japanese beer I can't recall the name of (but cost a fortune when I was paying for my daughters 20th a while back for a group of us & her boyfriend kept ordering these - mind you when he builds me the wood fired oven in the backyard all will be forgiven)!!
Carona
I've got a bottle of Blue Tongue beer in the fridge for the last few months that I should try - mate says it's good! |
Bluetounge is quite good. I drink that, if you like Asian beers or Corona you will like Bluetongue. Very clean taste. |
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