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Which illegal immigrant policy is the least worst?
Abbott's
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 0%  [ 0 ]
Howard's
16%
 16%  [ 3 ]
Gillard's
38%
 38%  [ 7 ]
Rudd's
11%
 11%  [ 2 ]
Brown's
33%
 33%  [ 6 ]
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rocketronnie 



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:48 pm
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watt price tully wrote:
rocketronnie wrote:
watt price tully wrote:
Pied Piper, many years ago I taped a WW2 propaganda film made during war & set in the UK called "Tawny Pipit".

Not a bad litte film using ornithology as a vehicle to demonstrate how humane the Brits were around the time of the boming by the forces of evil. The ornithologists come out winners but some in ther brood have dark intentions...

Plot
During the Second World War Jimmy Bancroft (Niall MacGinnis) a fighter pilot just released from hospital, and his nurse (now his girlfriend) Hazel Broome (Rosamund John) are on a walking tour through the countryside. They arrive at the fictional village of Lipsbury Lea and being keen birdwatchers, discover that a pair of tawny pipits, which are rarely seen in England, are nesting nearby.

Staying in the village, they enlist the locals to protect the nesting site until the eggs hatch. The villagers do so with great enthusiasm, led by the fiery retired Colonel Barton-Barrington (Bernard Miles) and the Reverend Kingsley.

Unfortunately, the field where the nest is located (known locally as the pinfold) is due to be ploughed up by order of the county agricultural committee, and a delegation to the Ministry of Agriculture in London fails to get the order rescinded. Fortunately, the Minister was Barton-Barrington's junior at school, and the Minister personally intervenes to save the field from being ploughed.

The eggs duly hatch, but not before a plot to steal the eggs on behalf of an unscrupulous dealer is foiled by an alert army corporal (an amateur ornithologist) who is serving nearby.

Authenticity
James Fisher and Julian Huxley were credited as ornithological advisers for the film. Nevertheless, the birds shown in the film are not actually Tawny Pipits but Meadow Pipits.

Filming location
The location of the filming was Lower Slaughter in the Cotswolds, but the fictional location is left unclear. A sign on a pub advertises ales brewed in Oxford, so it may be assumed that the location is Gloucestershire or Oxfordshire.

Propaganda value
By the time the film was released (not until 1947 in the USA), the threat of invasion had subsided, but it was still seen as an effective piece of propaganda. It showed the love of the English for their country and all echelons of society uniting for the common good. A subplot shows Barton-Barrington presenting his Browning Automatic Rifle to Corporal Bokolova (Lucie Mannheim), a Russian soldier on a goodwill tour, whilst giving a fiery speech about some foreigners being 'jolly good chaps'.


Worth a watch if you get a chance.


I've seen it. Its a mawkish sentimental piece of crap even when compared to other propaganda films of the time.


RR please tell us what you really think?

Sentimental I'll give you, mawkish perhaps, not the best propaganda film? I agree. But a piece of crap? I think not. Brilliant cinema? no way, brilliant acting? not so much.
As good as Ernst Lubith's 1939 propaganda film Ninotchka? No way.
Having said that I don't think it is as bad as you make out! but it's all in the eye of the beerholder.


Ninotchka is much better as is "In Which We Serve", and "This Happy Breed". My favourite is "49th Parallel" however. The Tawny Pipit's gentle comedy is okayish but I found it grated the further the film progressed.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:09 pm
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"Meanwhile, back on the ranch ... Poncho, disguised as a door, has had his knob shot off" Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:11 pm
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Pied Piper wrote:
"Meanwhile, back on the ranch ... Poncho, disguised as a door, has had his knob shot off" Smile


Ohhh Cisco!.... Ohhh Pancho!

Must we leave our good friends Now?

Only 'til next time! Vamos!! Laughing Laughing Laughing

I attribute watching The Cisco Kid as a wee impressionable youngster as one of the key reasons I'm gay! If it was good enough for Cisco.... Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:04 am
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At last, a politician who gets it: To stop the refugee boats, start by setting up a visa queue in Quetta. Unfortunately, he is from the wrong side of the house - a bloody tory in short - but credit where it's due, this guy really does understand what's going on, and the fact that he is not the opposition spokesman on immigration just goes to show that Tony Abbott doesn't have a clue any more than Gillard does.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/to-stop-the-refugee-boats-start-by-setting-up-a-visa-queue-in-quetta/story-e6frg6zo-1225984620981

"It is probably inevitable that people will flee regional instability across the Middle East and southern and Southeast Asia. But it is being aggravated by the 1951 Refugee Convention, which drives people into neighbouring states to apply for asylum, only to discover massive waiting lists and years of delay. It is eminently safer, faster and more efficient for the UN to process refugees when they first cross borders; it also restricts criminal trafficking mostly to non-refugees.

"Two-thirds of Australia's arrivals originate from Afghanistan and Iraq, nations with democratically elected governments that we helped establish. Half of these arrivals are escaping little more than poverty and pockets of instability.

"Because the laws of refoulement don't apply to these non-refugees, they should be immediately returned to UNHCR safe zones in their region for economic reintegration. That doesn't occur because we have a federal government offering each of them the option to appeal Immigration's determination to a review tribunal, and a recent High Court determination allowing them to appeal that appeal. Even then, we merely invite them to return home.

"The Australian-funded AliceGhan residential complex in Kabul is an ideal resettlement base. It can accommodate 6000 people but is mostly empty.

Further on, he writes:

"Immigration loopholes at home add to the attraction of smuggling. The chance for family reunion visas lures extended families in Afghanistan to pool resources, smuggle individuals on to boats, then hope the remainder can follow. Until every person deserving asylum can get it, we should limit reunions to spouses and minors of the persecuted.

There is quite a bit more, all of it rational, practical, humane, and sensible. Recommended reading.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:32 am
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The term Refugee needs an overhaul and nothing will happen unless the UN agreement Australia signed is put through the shredder. Whilst we have both sides of our house using this as a political football we will continue to ride the merry go round. In saying the more illegal’s get into Australia through the front door than by boat.
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Tannin Capricorn

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:04 pm
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Why not use the existing thread, Bruno?
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:39 am
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We need to start another. Razz
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