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Mountains Magpie
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Somewhere between now and then
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P4S, my apologies for not replying earlier. I do enjoy talking music with you very much.
1965 is pretty much for all the reasons you said. Having said that, 1964 and the songs you cited unquestionably sewed the seeds for 1965. You Really Got Me crossed with Wagner = heavy metal By 1965 all the perceived barriers were gone. Compare Help to Rubber Soul as one example; and they're the same year!! By the way, just how good is 'She's Not There' ? You can just imagine Carlos saying 'Yep, I'm doing that' !!
As soon as I read 1948 I just knew it was gonna be Muddy Waters. God I love him !! That line in "Crossroads" always makes me smile. "Muddy Waters invented electricity" !!! When I got to your next paragraph I knew we had something else to agree on Do you have the 1941 recordings by Lomax ?
1984 is a personal choice.
You know I'm an albums person and I thought 'The Swing' was just extraordinary, and maybe the best Australian album, until I heard 'Diorama'. Iron Maiden's 'Powerslave' was also going to be a tough act to follow, for them and everyone else in the genre, 'Master Of Puppets' excluded. Growing up the way I did, 'Powerslave' for me was as far as the rock/heavy/prog thing was probably gonna go.
YAY !! We did Coleridge !!! That doesn't leave a lot of room......... Webber & Rice I think hit the same hurdle after 1970, know what I mean ??
I thought '1984' was a great album and as for Henley, well no.....it's not all West Coast !!
Also, probably the rise of sampling, house, death metal, MTV (a massive key factor - SEE not LISTEN), hiphop etc. took something away...something indefinable, by/for me anyway. Production (ex. Bob Rock) will be part of the answer I'm sure. That and the gradual wresting back of control by the music moguls..........
There's been less and less thought going into the creation of music, as an artform, since 1984, again I stress, in my opinion. Perhaps the people making the most creative music aren't on the big labels ??
Of course, coming from a very particularly flavoured (especially pre Countdown rock/pop) upbringing, I'm probably biased and also a product of my age.
Aaaahhhh, Holy Wars. I think it was 1991, but whatever. As pure speed metal I thought it was the crowning glory of the genre, at least from American bands. I was gleeful when I heard the album, especially so when Metallica released the 'Black' album the following year. I was one of the audience that they lost.
Please don't get me wrong, there's loads of material post 1984 that I love a lot, although it does peter out for me about 2003, as a rule.
That said, I don't go seeking modern music. I'm too busy trying to catch up with what I missed in the 1970s and before
Every once in a while, my brother will bring something to my attention that I enjoy. Most recently it's the Strypes. Nothing terribly original but they do it very well !!
Best wishes,
MM
PS: What am I listening to right now ??? Exile On Main Street _________________ Spiral progress, unstoppable,
exhausted sources replaced by perversion |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
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Thanks for that, MM. I don't have all the 1941 Lomax recordings but my very thoughtful wife did get me "The Land Where the Blues Began", which contains some tremendous music recorded by him between 1933 and 1959. Amongst many other treasures, it contains Muddy's "Country Blues" from 1941.although it doesn't contain the famous first verse, it contains most of the stanzas from Robert Johnson's "Walkin' Blues" and is probably the most imitated recording of the rock era.
As for what I'm listening to, now, its "Midnight Rambler" (the 1969 studio version). The high notes in that opening riff go through me like an electric shock, every time.
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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My pleasure. |
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Mountains Magpie
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Somewhere between now and then
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I kid you not, I was listening to the Ya Yas Midnight Rambler on the way home on Tuesday. Great 'road' music
BTW, Lomax's book by the same title (The Land Where The Blues Began) is a great read !! _________________ Spiral progress, unstoppable,
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Jezza
2023 PREMIERS!
Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Location: Ponsford End
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Kevin Rudolf ft. Lil Wayne - Let it Rock _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
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Piethagoras' Theorem
the hypotenuse, is always a cakewalk
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I watched all of that! _________________ Formally frankiboy and FrankieGoesToCollingwood. |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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FrankieGoesToCollingwood wrote: | I watched all of that! |
I didn't watch all of either. I wanted to slam the piano key lid down on that douchbags fingers. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Dr Pie
Dr Pie
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I haven't been on this thread for ages so I missed P4S's original posting of four versions of Baby Please Don't Go (2004 version has been deleted). P4S you missed my favourite performance of the song also I think from 1964 and apologies for the quality of the youtube. I remember it from the studio performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QGywCOqAX8 _________________ Born and raised in Black and White |
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watt price tully
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The Necks.
Have just played at the Corner Hotel.
A reviewer asked: "Are they the best band ever"?
I'm listening to them while at work typing assessments on night shift for tonight & one more night.
They are new to me but a friend loves their stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaTyHFo3kns
Additional: after listening to most of this album I am very impressed. A poster on the link above called it "Kama Sutra for the mind"
The album is called Sex. I don't disagree. Great stuff. _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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watt price tully
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Phillip Glass: Soundtrack to Mishima the 1985 fillum directed by Paul Schraeder. I'd forgotton about this beauty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Y4m7ty8p8
Kronos quartet on Strings _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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Pies4shaw
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Dr Pie wrote: | I haven't been on this thread for ages so I missed P4S's original posting of four versions of Baby Please Don't Go (2004 version has been deleted). P4S you missed my favourite performance of the song also I think from 1964 and apologies for the quality of the youtube. I remember it from the studio performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QGywCOqAX8 |
Here's another 2004 version (Aerosmith): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfTiZ0mJn4E |
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Pies4shaw
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stui magpie wrote: | FrankieGoesToCollingwood wrote: | I watched all of that! |
I didn't watch all of either. I wanted to slam the piano key lid down on that douchbags fingers. |
I think you're both being too harsh, although you're not alone: here's the "Hitler rant" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQa4DL17Aug
I wanted to perform the Cage - but the publisher charges a fortune for the score, so I couldn't afford to buy it.
Luckily, for $29.95, I was able to get hold of Ligeti's 0m,0s. It's a less substantial work, of course, but getting my mind around the exact length of each rest was a demanding task.
I won't give you a link to that Ligeti, but here's one to an exceptionally fine interpretation of his Lux Aeterna from 1966: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iVYu5lyX5M |
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stui magpie wrote: |
I didn't watch all of either.
I wanted to slam the piano key lid down on that douchbags fingers.
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The douche was the bloke coughing.
How the hell can anyone concentrate with an audience like that!!!!
Dr Pie wrote: | Baby please don't go.
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I saw the Clash live at Festival Hall back in early 80's
It was their last gig with Mick Jones on guitar, Paul Simenon on bass and Joe Strummer.
They started at 8 p.m and played till long past midnight.
I remember them playing "Baby please don't go" as part of their 12th (or so) encore.
I couldn't find a clip but here's a faint scratchy (audio only) version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGhwykPhES8 |
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