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Monco Matt 
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They were just discussing on SEN that a big reason why skills drop away, like ours did in the last qtr is due to tiredness more than anything else. The Saints skills didn't drop away which lends to the notion that they are a fitter team than we are. Last night I also heard that after their 2008 Prelim flogging they employed some AIS fitness guys to revamp their programs which has been the biggesst factor in their ability to run games out and maintain their skill level.
Is our fitness staff the best available? Are they really doing a great job? Because until our skills dropped away we basically matched it with the Saints.
Other sides in the comp generally don't work us as hard as the top sides do, but we can handle all other sides but the top teams have our measure, is it our fitness level that is holding us back above all else?
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AN_Inkling
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Nope. Don't think so. The Saints are simply better than we are. We had to work our arses of to stay on top of them for three quarters, then ran out of gas in the last. Well, ran out of gas is a little too strong, we lacked run and lost the first three or four crucial clearances. Unfortunately, that was game over.
May have been a mental tiredness as well. We worked so hard in the third, dominated that quarter, and yet did not kick a goal. The game was really lost there, just like it was for the Saints in last year's Grand Final, and the Cats the year before.
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1eyedpie 
Joined: 10 Mar 2005
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^^ Abit like a heavyweight boxer having a lot of swings but missing gets fatigued and his opponent delivers the knockout punch!
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sq3
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Location: Gold Coast/Tampa
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Amazing - our players are smaller bodied than the Saints players (and Cats) and they are not as fit or fast over the ground.
I do actually think that Dr B is very good with conditioning (but knows jack about strength training) but may have just got it out by a day on this weeks stretch between games.
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Piethagoras' Theorem 
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Only when we lose.. of course when we win, we can bench press 3 times our bodyweight and outrun a bus load of Kenyans
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pietillidie
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| No. We have a system in transition, we're weaning new players into the side, and we still need further development to match it with the mature quality sides. |
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sq3
Joined: 30 Mar 2004
Location: Gold Coast/Tampa
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| frankiboy wrote: | | Only when we lose.. of course when we win, we can bench press 3 times our bodyweight and outrun a bus load of Kenyans |
Too true mate - you always look slow chasing the opposition.
I did see the Storm boys yesterday though and I tell you what Slater could bench press Rocca (no joke) - he used to be a jockey and now makes Daisy look like a real jockey. He is at least 95kg's. (In the Rexona challenge he benched 75% of his body weight for 33 reps), Corvo has now been there 8 years and they are very strong and fit boys.
When Bomber and Bellyache set a cross training session last year they matched up Ablett and Slater. If it was a straight mark Ablett was better - but the thing that amazed Bomber was that every time the ball hit the deck Slater got it. He was faster and stronger than GA jr.
Cats have learnt a lot from the Storm in the last 16 months since Bomber walked into a bar in NY after the end of the 2008 season and ran into Bellyache.
They have been good mates since and swap lots of ideas and training methods.
Both clubs lost the 2008 GF's - then both won 2009 GF and both again are odds on to win again this year.
To think we trained right next door to them and learnt nothing 
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jack_spain
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| sq3 wrote: | Amazing - our players are smaller bodied than the Saints players (and Cats) and they are not as fit or fast over the ground.
I do actually think that Dr B is very good with conditioning (but knows jack about strength training) but may have just got it out by a day on this weeks stretch between games. |
You know we think alike about skills and fitness sq3. We could do worse than have a look at the way Storm prepares.
But everyone conveniently forgets Arizona! 
It is supposed to be our secret weapon. 
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To think we trained right next door to them (Storm) and learnt nothing |
Unbelievable. |
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stui magpie 
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Joined: 03 May 2005
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| frankiboy wrote: | | Only when we lose.. of course when we win, we can bench press 3 times our bodyweight and outrun a bus load of Kenyans |
Yeah but we can only out run them cos they're pushing the bus. 
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WarrenerraW
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Location: Melbourne
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| we supposedly have the best training facilities in the league but no one seems to have read the instruction manual because we don't know how to use them. we waste hundreds and thousands of dollars year after year on ridiculous high altitude training that's supposed to give our players a competitive edge over the opposition and improve their fitness. what a joke. hawthorn walk kokoda and win a GF and geelong have proved successful without resorting to such money wasting tactics. we train next door to the storm and if there's ever a better chance to learn about strength and core fitness it would be from them. |
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Piethagoras' Theorem
the hypotenuse, is always a cakewalk
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| stui magpie wrote: | | frankiboy wrote: | | Only when we lose.. of course when we win, we can bench press 3 times our bodyweight and outrun a bus load of Kenyans |
Yeah but we can only out run them cos they're pushing the bus. |
hehe, I just had a flashback of wacky races and that gangster mob with their foot powered sedan
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John Wren
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| frankiboy wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | | frankiboy wrote: | | Only when we lose.. of course when we win, we can bench press 3 times our bodyweight and outrun a bus load of Kenyans |
Yeah but we can only out run them cos they're pushing the bus. |
hehe, I just had a flashback of wacky races and that gangster mob with their foot powered sedan |
lol, muttley.
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ronrat
Joined: 22 May 2006
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Been syaing for a few years that the Arizona trip is waste of time. Get the Percy Cerutty traetment. 10 days running up the sand dunes at Portsea.
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woftam
I used to be undecided, but now I'm not so sure.
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Location: Carum Downs, Vic
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| frankiboy wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | | frankiboy wrote: | | Only when we lose.. of course when we win, we can bench press 3 times our bodyweight and outrun a bus load of Kenyans |
Yeah but we can only out run them cos they're pushing the bus. |
hehe, I just had a flashback of wacky races and that gangster mob with their foot powered sedan |
Ahhhh yes the Anthill mob.  |
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