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jackcass Cancer



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:49 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
3.14159...etc wrote:
Mark Orval's son "Dylan" who plays for the Oakley Chargers a hot tip to be trafted next year!
Saw him on "TAC future stars" and the kid can play!
Good over-head mark and pacy.
One to watch!



He only played 35 Games for us


And a shame that was Dave... stress fractures of the feet...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:13 pm
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3.14159...etc wrote:
Neil Appleby wrote:
Presti#1Fan wrote:
What we need is Jamie Turner to have kids!! Razz If you know what im saying!


I don't have a clue what you are saying Sad


I think He means that the "Apple Turn-over" is, well, he plays for the other team,....not that there's anything wrong with that! Rolling Eyes


6 months later, let me clear this up....

Ken Turner, Jamie Turner.......

Do you see what I was saying?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:09 am
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I assume Jett and Ayce are already on long term contracts? And what's this heresy about a Daicos supporting Carltun? Just as well he snapped out of that! Actually I have a vague idea that the marvel himself was a scum supporter as a ruggy, nest pas? The great man is a pie to the core now though, witness his call at the end of the '02 prelim (below)

And lord who could forget Rod the Rocket Oborne! Wore no.8, there was a famous shot of him landing upside down after a mark, looked like his neck was broken (but it was the ball). He was a fabulous player on his day, mind you his kids should be 50 by now! Musta had em late!

Finally, Ned's kids won't need to be guns, they'll have awesome management!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:36 am
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35forever wrote:
I assume Jett and Ayce are already on long term contracts? And what's this heresy about a Daicos supporting Carltun? Just as well he snapped out of that! Actually I have a vague idea that the marvel himself was a scum supporter as a ruggy, nest pas? The great man is a pie to the core now though, witness his call at the end of the '02 prelim (below)

And lord who could forget Rod the Rocket Oborne! Wore no.8, there was a famous shot of him landing upside down after a mark, looked like his neck was broken (but it was the ball). He was a fabulous player on his day, mind you his kids should be 50 by now! Musta had em late!

Finally, Ned's kids won't need to be guns, they'll have awesome management!


daicos was a mad sth fan even when he was playing for the collingwood magoos.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:03 pm
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Would Stephen Patterson's kids be eligible?
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RudeBoy 



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:45 pm
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If Travis Cloke ever has a son, I'm not sure i'd want him...especially if his grand father was his manager. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:55 am
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35forever wrote:
I assume Jett and Ayce are already on long term contracts? And what's this heresy about a Daicos supporting Carltun? Just as well he snapped out of that! Actually I have a vague idea that the marvel himself was a scum supporter as a ruggy, nest pas? The great man is a pie to the core now though, witness his call at the end of the '02 prelim (below)

And lord who could forget Rod the Rocket Oborne! Wore no.8, there was a famous shot of him landing upside down after a mark, looked like his neck was broken (but it was the ball). He was a fabulous player on his day, mind you his kids should be 50 by now! Musta had em late!

Finally, Ned's kids won't need to be guns, they'll have awesome management!


No Daics supported the swans when he was a kid. Around the mid 80's he was seriously contemplating joining south melbourne.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:25 am
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Presti#1Fan wrote:
3.14159...etc wrote:
Neil Appleby wrote:
Presti#1Fan wrote:
What we need is Jamie Turner to have kids!! Razz If you know what im saying!


I don't have a clue what you are saying Sad


I think He means that the "Apple Turn-over" is, well, he plays for the other team,....not that there's anything wrong with that! Rolling Eyes


6 months later, let me clear this up....

Ken Turner, Jamie Turner.......

Do you see what I was saying?


I always got what you were saying... I just thought I would wait for someone else to say it...

1958-Ken Turner played for us... Premiers.

1990-Jamie Turner played for us... Premiers.



I see a bit of a pattern developing...
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Pies4shaw 



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:13 pm
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I thought it might be of interest to post the actual "father son" rule (extracted from the AFL Player Rules updated 20 September 2010 - refer to http://aflpa.com.au/sites/all/files/AFL%20Player%20Rules%20-%20September%202010.pdf):

"4.2 Father/Son Rule
4.2.1 Players Eligible Ė All Clubs
Subject to Rule 4.2.4, a Club may include a person on its Primary List if the personís father played 100 or more Senior Matches (being either Home and Away or Finals Series Matches) with the Club.
4.2.2 Western Australian and South Australian Based Clubs
In addition to the rights conveyed under Rule 4.2.1;
(a) The West Coast Eagles Football Club may include a person on its Primary List if that personís father played 150 Senior Matches (being either home and away or finals series matches) at one of the following clubs prior to, but not including, 1987:
(i) Claremont Football Club;
(ii) East Perth Football Club;
(iii) West Perth Football Club; or
(iv) Subiaco Football Club.
(b) The Fremantle Football Club may include a person on its Primary List if that personís father played 150 or more Senior Matches (being either home and away or finals series matches) at one of the following clubs prior to, but not including, 1995:
(i) South Fremantle Football Club;
(ii) East Fremantle Football Club;
(iii) Perth Football Club; or
(iv) Swan Districts Football Club.
(c) The Adelaide Football Club may include a person on its Primary List if that personís father played 200 or more Senior Matches (being either home and away or finals series matches) at one of the following clubs prior to but not including, 1991:
(i) Norwood Football Club;
(ii) Glenelg Football Club;
(iii) Sturt Football Club; or
(iv) South Adelaide Football Club.
(d) The Port Adelaide Football Club may include a person on its Primary List if that personís father played 200 or more Senior Matches (being either home and away or finals series matches) at one of the following clubs prior to, but not including, 1997:
(i) Port Magpies Football Club;
(ii) Woodville Football Club;
(iii) West Torrens Football Club;
(iv) North Adelaide Football Club;
(iv) Central Districts Football Club; or
(v) West Adelaide Football Club.
(e) This Rule 4.2.2 is subject to Rule 4.2.4.
4.2.3 NSW and Queensland Based Clubs
(a) A person is eligible to be included on the Primary List of:
(i) the Sydney Swans if his father satisfies the criteria under Rule 4.2.1 by playing for the South Melbourne Football Club (as it was then known); or
(ii) the Brisbane Lions if his father satisfies the criteria under Rule 4.2.1 by playing for the Fitzroy Football Club (as it was then known).
4.2.4 No Prior Registration
A person cannot be included on a Clubís Primary List under Rules 4.2.1, 4.2.2 or 4.2.3 if he has at any time been registered with the AFL as a Player with any Club."

To keep the post manageable, I have not set out the document lodgement requirements (clause 4.2.5), the procedure for resolving competing claims by 2 clubs which are both eligible to list a player under the Rule (clause 4.2.6), the draft "bidding" process (clause 4.2.7) or the associated restriction on trading away the draft selection required to nominate under clause 4.2.7 (clause 4.2.8 ) - all of those can be found at the url specified above.

So far as I can ascertain, the term "father" is not defined in the AFL Player Rules, so I suppose it takes its ordinary meaning (whatever that is).

Generally speaking, the eligibility rule will be relatively straight-forward in its application to Collingwood (see rules 4.2.1 and 4.2.4) but I have included the modifications of the rule for the interstate clubs for completeness. In short, players whose fathers played 100 games for Collingwood are eligible to be listed.

Although it is not matter of great interest now, Rule 4.2.4 would have prevented Richmond from listing Travis (or Jason or Cameron) Cloke under rule 4.2.1 this year, because he had previously been registered with the AFL as a Player with Collingwood.
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RudeBoy 



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:31 pm
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rocketronnie wrote:
What about Jason Wilde's kiddies? Razz


Let's not overlook Justin Crow's offspring. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:08 am
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Thought I'd update this with some info from Feb this year from the forum on BigFooty.com

NSW Scholarship players
Players eligible for the 2011 Draft

Jarrod Witts
Sydney University/Team GWS U18's
207cm, 106kg
DOB 13/09/92

Michael Hartley
Sydney University U18's/Team GWS U18's
195cm, 94kg
DOB 7/06/93

Adrian Yakimov
Sydney University U18's/Team GWS U18's
182cm, 70kg
DOB 20/08/93

Tyson Carracher
Collingwood VFL/Tathra Sea Eagles/U18 Rams
185cm, 75kg
DOB 15/04/93

Players eligible for the 2012 Draft

Jed Hillman
Barellan/Riverina U18's
182cm, 84kg
DOB 2/03/94

Players eligible for the 2013 Draft

Elijah Edwards
Bateman's Bay U17's/Flying Boomerangs U17's/NSW U15's
162cm
Born 1995

John Haggerty
Western Suburbs Magpies
190cm, 78kg
DOB 2/06/95

Sons of former Collingwood players playing in TAC Cup/State/National Champs

Ben Monkhorst
Woori Yallock/Eastern Ranges U18's
187cm, 78kg
DOB 30/12/91

Son of Collingwood premiership player Damian Monkhorst (205 games for Collingwood)
Ben played for Woori Yallock, and interleague games for the Yarra Valley Mountain District Football League (YVMDFL) in 2009.

Jackson Starcevich
Hale School (WA)/Morningside Panthers

Son of Collingwood premiership player Craig Starcevich (124 games for Collingwood)
Jackson played for Queensland in the 2009 U16 National Champs, moved to WA with his family, but has rejoined Morningside in Qld for the 2011 season.

James Stewart
Vic Metro U16's/Sandringham Dragons
190cm, 73kg
DOB 4/03/94

Son of Collingwood player Craig Stewart (115 games for Collingwood). James plays for his school as well as for Glen Iris, and is part of the Dragons squad.

Ned McKeown
Yarrambat/Northern Knights U16's

Son of Collingwood player Ronnie McKeown (123 games for Collingwood)

Darcy Moore
Kew/Vic Metro U16's

Son of Collingwood Brownlow medallist Peter Moore (172 games for Collingwood)
Darcy is in U15's in the YJFL, but will likely be selected to represent Vic Metro in the U16's this year.

Pre-listed/Contracted International Rookie Prospects

Caolan Mooney
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/newsfeatures/news/newsarticle/tabid/5586/newsid/100079/default.aspx

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Pies4shaw 



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:49 pm
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Thanks.

Does anyone know what has happened to Elijah Edwards (mentioned on your list as a 2013 draft eligible) and how he is progressing? He was announced as a Collingwood NSW scholarship player to much fanfare on the official site and the film footage of him in the underage comp was quite impressive. Since then, there has been nothing from the Club.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:26 pm
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This is the latest I can find on him...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/gws-miss-out-as-magpies-swoop/story-e6frexx0-1225863330491

Nice to see we've annoyed Sheedy on multiple fronts Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:10 am
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ukcoleman wrote:
James Stewart
Vic Metro U16's/Sandringham Dragons
190cm, 73kg
DOB 4/03/94

Son of Collingwood player Craig Stewart (115 games for Collingwood). James plays for his school as well as for Glen Iris, and is part of the Dragons squad.

Apparently - according to Emma Quayle, Collingwood may try to take James Stewart as a 17 year old in a deal involving the GWS's concessional ability to land 17 year olds. James is being touted as a potential first-round pick, if he goes in the following draft. See:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/clubs-strike-it-rich-on-early-calls-20110414-1dg07.html
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:04 am
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So has the deadline for nominating father Son picks passed yet?

Who's in contention this year? Stewart and Starcevich?

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