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John Wren
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can't recall if this has been an annual thread but i'm curious to know what ANZAC Day means to you. it's significance has certainly grown as the years pass and as those we honour become less in number.
i'm not wishing to trivialise the deeds of those that served or glorify the concept of war but i'm sure the majority of you will have something that gives the day meaning to you.
i love going to the dawn ceremony and last year was my first anzac day game of footy, standing as a stadium of 90,000 falls silent was an amazing experience. obviously it's about more than just a game of footy. so what's it mean for you.
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Piethagoras' Theorem
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I don't have any real connection with those who fought but I respect what they did and am thankful for their efforts. As for the game, it's the biggest of the year bar finals but on a totally different level. You never like to lose but I dunno, even when you do, the sense of the occasion pales it into insignificance. I haven't missed one and don't intend on missing any. It truly is a special day.
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stui magpie
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Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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Growing up in the country, and with a returned serviceman uncle, I used to march each year with the primary school.
Like most kids in the 70's, I was over it and as soon as I could, I stopped going.
Then in High School, I read "one day of the year" and I understood.
I don't go to dawn services or even watch the parade. If I'm about, I'll go down to the local RSL to hear the last post, then move on.
ANZAC day is part of our identity, part of our coming of age as a nation. Those guys who went and fought were only kids themselves. They didn't have internet or TV to tell them all about it, they thought it was going to be a huge adventure. Then they got there and found mud and blood and tears, but they didn't sook - they gave their best.
For those who left these shores to fight for king and country, we will remember them. Lest we forget.
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David
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A yearly reminder of the horror and insanity of warfare. It is a day of remembrance that will only become irrelevant when there is no more war. "Lest we forget" may be a cliche, but it is so apt.
Only ever been to the one Anzac Day match, by the way, the first one. Barely remember it. Hopefully next year I'll be there.
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pietillidie
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It's a brilliant day. The meaning for me is in the faces of the ailing veterans and their families. I am extremely thankful for the fortune of being an Australian citizen and I owe much of that fortune to them. And I think in the broader sweep of history they actually shaped civilisation as we know it; every gain made since the Enlightenment was pretty much on the edge of being wiped out for much of last century.
But gratitude and respect are the only valid emotions IMO for those of us who have contributed not a fraction of sweat to keeping the country free; the day is increasingly being cheapened by flag-waving nationalist bogans trying to lay claim to deeds which they did not commit. Bravery and sacrifice are not heritable, and IMO we have no right to be "proud" of something we did not do. I find such chauvinists crass and disrespectful.
As for the game, I think it has been instrumental in me personally taking more of an interest in the day. I think it acts as a great marker for the occasion and it helps bring people together. Indeed I am pondering it now because of the game, and I think that can only be a good thing.
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Proud Pies
Joined: 22 Feb 2003 Location: Knox-ish
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pietillidie
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^Sounds great Proud Pies. The day is for folks like your family. Respect.
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Didaicos
The Macedonian Marvel = The Croat Confoundment!!!
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pietillidie wrote: | It's a brilliant day. The meaning for me is in the faces of the ailing veterans and their families. I am extremely thankful for the fortune of being an Australian citizen and I owe much of that fortune to them. And I think in the broader sweep of history they actually shaped civilisation as we know it; every gain made since the Enlightenment was pretty much on the edge of being wiped out for much of last century.
But gratitude and respect are the only valid emotions IMO for those of us who have contributed not a fraction of sweat to keeping the country free; the day is increasingly being cheapened by flag-waving nationalist bogans trying to lay claim to deeds which they did not commit. Bravery and sacrifice are not heritable, and IMO we have no right to be "proud" of something we did not do. I find such chauvinists crass and disrespectful.
As for the game, I think it has been instrumental in me personally taking more of an interest in the day. I think it acts as a great marker for the occasion and it helps bring people together. Indeed I am pondering it now because of the game, and I think that can only be a good thing. | Brilliant post. If i hear one more idiot try to justify an arguement with 'my grandfather fought for the flag' so therefore .... i think i.ll scream. I think the day was being high jacked the day i saw those 'fanatics' (those try hard tennis fans) with specially made green and gold t shirts for the dawn service. Talk about cringeworthy
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pietillidie
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^Agree, but don't let them ruin it for the genuine people like Proud Pies' family.
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HAL
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Didaicos wrote: | [quote="pietillidie"]It's a brilliant day. The meaning for me is in the faces of the ailing veterans and their families. I am extremely thankful for the fortune of being an Australian citizen and I owe much of that fortune to them. And I think in the broader sweep of history they actually shaped civilisation as we know it; every gain made since the Enlightenment was pretty much on the edge of being wiped out for much of last century.
But gratitude and respect are the only valid emotions IMO for those of us who have contributed not a fraction of sweat to keeping the country free; the day is increasingly being cheapened by flag-waving nationalist bogans trying to lay claim to deeds which they did not commit. Bravery and sacrifice are not heritable, and IMO we have no right to be "proud" of something we did not do. I find such chauvinists crass and disrespectful.
As for the game, I think it has been instrumental in me personally taking more of an interest in the day. I think it acts as a great marker for the occasion and it helps bring people together. Indeed I am pondering it now because of the game, and I think that can only be a good thing.[/quote] Brilliant post. If i hear one more idiot try to justify an arguement with 'my grandfather fought for the flag' so therefore .... i think i.ll scream. I think the day was being high jacked the day i saw those 'fanatics' (those try hard tennis fans) with specially made green and gold t shirts for the dawn service. Talk about cringeworthy | Do you still it? Is that your final answer?
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frankiboy wrote: | I don't have any real connection with those who fought but I respect what they did and am thankful for their efforts. As for the game, it's the biggest of the year bar finals but on a totally different level. You never like to lose but I dunno, even when you do, the sense of the occasion pales it into insignificance. I haven't missed one and don't intend on missing any. It truly is a special day. |
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Didaicos
The Macedonian Marvel = The Croat Confoundment!!!
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pietillidie wrote: | ^Agree, but don't let them ruin it for the genuine people like Proud Pies' family. | yeah sorry should have added that. Also love my family connections to their service. My great grandfathes helped draft the document for japanese surrender something i was amazed to discover. I more object to people using it to who an argument. Brilliant photo pp. Sums up the elation i'm sure many fortunate families felt when their loved ones returned.
_________________ WELLLINGHAM ROVES IT....AND KICKS THE GOAL!!!!
SWAN'S GOING TO KICK A GOAL. THEY'RE HOME YOU'D THINK I KNOW IT'S A LONG WAY TO GO BUT THEY'RE KILLING THEM NOW!! |
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Piesnchess
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Anzac day means a hell of a lot to me. Today i attended a memorial service in Williamstown and wore my late Dads medals. He served 1939-45, and fought in the middle east, greece, crete and new guinea. He was wounded twice, and had malaria. He ended the war a Lieutenant in the Artillery. Like most Vets, he hated war. I wil be marching for him on Anzac day,and for my grandmother who lost three of her brothers in World war 1,three of my great uncles died in that war, and we have never forgotten it, I have their medals too, and i lay a wreath for them and for my dad. After the march i will attend the reunion for dads regiment,which is nearly all sons and daughters and grandkids now. Lest we forget.
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CAAS
Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Location: The Laurie Hill Stand
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to me it means that i am grateful for the opportunity to live a free and healthy life without being dictated too. That our forfarthers fought for our flag, our country to stop dictators from trying to control the world.
I will be there saturday, hand on my heart, hat in my hand paying respects during the last post. I will buy a digger a beer and just say thanks mate, this 1's on me.
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David
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Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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pietillidie wrote: | It's a brilliant day. The meaning for me is in the faces of the ailing veterans and their families. I am extremely thankful for the fortune of being an Australian citizen and I owe much of that fortune to them. And I think in the broader sweep of history they actually shaped civilisation as we know it; every gain made since the Enlightenment was pretty much on the edge of being wiped out for much of last century.
But gratitude and respect are the only valid emotions IMO for those of us who have contributed not a fraction of sweat to keeping the country free; the day is increasingly being cheapened by flag-waving nationalist bogans trying to lay claim to deeds which they did not commit. Bravery and sacrifice are not heritable, and IMO we have no right to be "proud" of something we did not do. I find such chauvinists crass and disrespectful.
As for the game, I think it has been instrumental in me personally taking more of an interest in the day. I think it acts as a great marker for the occasion and it helps bring people together. Indeed I am pondering it now because of the game, and I think that can only be a good thing. |
This is a great post.
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