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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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That's unbelievable. |
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think positive
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Unbelievable but not odd _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Piethagoras' Theorem
the hypotenuse, is always a cakewalk
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Doc63 wrote: | David wrote: | Doc63 wrote: | Skids wrote: | David wrote: | I don't care how many you think there are, or how many you think I think there are. The statistics are out there if you want to look for them. |
Nor do I.
You live in a bubble and stick up for everything that sux, what's wrong with you? |
Post of the year right there!! |
Yeah, I thought it was one of the board's finer intellectual achievements. |
I must admit, I was more impressed with the accuracy of the statement than anything else. |
The way I see it, David challenges people's belief systems mostly with reason, intelligence, facts and without getting personal. People like you, skids and many others seem incapable of dealing with it. _________________ Formally frankiboy and FrankieGoesToCollingwood. |
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think positive
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FrankieGoesToCollingwood wrote: | Doc63 wrote: | David wrote: | Doc63 wrote: | Skids wrote: | David wrote: | I don't care how many you think there are, or how many you think I think there are. The statistics are out there if you want to look for them. |
Nor do I.
You live in a bubble and stick up for everything that sux, what's wrong with you? |
Post of the year right there!! |
Yeah, I thought it was one of the board's finer intellectual achievements. |
I must admit, I was more impressed with the accuracy of the statement than anything else. |
The way I see it, David challenges people's belief systems mostly with reason, intelligence, facts and without getting personal. People like you, skids and many others seem incapable of dealing with it. |
Um no, David does sometimes get personal, or rather, superior, condescending, and I find that very grating too. As I always tell him when he does it to me.
But anyway the statement that this is about isn't a personal judgement, it's a question, and I have to admit, I totally agree, David does seem to stick up for the absolute dregs of society, and I know it all goes back to his belief that there is no such thing as free will. I totally disagree, and I think people should take responsibility for their action. Yep there may be mitigating circumstances, but who doesn't have something in their past that could be a mitigating circumstance for some heinous crime? Or as I prefer to call it, an excuse? Excuses are easy to find if you want to look hard enough for them. Wether it's killing someone, acting on urges that infringe on someone else's rights or well being, or yes, even just being over weight.
I'm trying to think of a time he was more on the victims side, or at least, not looking to excuse the offender. I find it incredulous at times, and yeah I guess even a little admirable to always see the good in everything and everyone, but I also think it's naive and sometimes, downright unfair to the victim. _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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think positive wrote: | I know it all goes back to his belief that there is no such thing as free will. |
That's not actually true. My belief in empathy is informed by the fact that free will is an illusion, but if that were not the case, I would still stand up for the people you refer to as "the dregs of society" just as much. Those "dregs" are still human beings. Someone has to stand up for them. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Piethagoras' Theorem
the hypotenuse, is always a cakewalk
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think positive wrote: | FrankieGoesToCollingwood wrote: | Doc63 wrote: | David wrote: | Doc63 wrote: | Skids wrote: | David wrote: | I don't care how many you think there are, or how many you think I think there are. The statistics are out there if you want to look for them. |
Nor do I.
You live in a bubble and stick up for everything that sux, what's wrong with you? |
Post of the year right there!! |
Yeah, I thought it was one of the board's finer intellectual achievements. |
I must admit, I was more impressed with the accuracy of the statement than anything else. |
The way I see it, David challenges people's belief systems mostly with reason, intelligence, facts and without getting personal. People like you, skids and many others seem incapable of dealing with it. |
Um no, David does sometimes get personal, or rather, superior, condescending, and I find that very grating too. As I always tell him when he does it to me.
But anyway the statement that this is about isn't a personal judgement, it's a question, and I have to admit, I totally agree, David does seem to stick up for the absolute dregs of society, and I know it all goes back to his belief that there is no such thing as free will. I totally disagree, and I think people should take responsibility for their action. Yep there may be mitigating circumstances, but who doesn't have something in their past that could be a mitigating circumstance for some heinous crime? Or as I prefer to call it, an excuse? Excuses are easy to find if you want to look hard enough for them. Wether it's killing someone, acting on urges that infringe on someone else's rights or well being, or yes, even just being over weight.
I'm trying to think of a time he was more on the victims side, or at least, not looking to excuse the offender. I find it incredulous at times, and yeah I guess even a little admirable to always see the good in everything and everyone, but I also think it's naive and sometimes, downright unfair to the victim. |
I did say "mostly". I think all long time posters on here have got personal at one stage or another, myself included. Regardless, coming across as superior or condescending is not getting personal.
As far as sticking up for "the absolute dregs of society", I'm not so sure. Seems more like questioning the extreme views taken towards the perpetrators. That is in no way dismissing or having little empathy for the victim.
Anyhoo, I'm sure David is capable of sticking up for himself. Way better than I could _________________ Formally frankiboy and FrankieGoesToCollingwood. |
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think positive
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David wrote: | think positive wrote: | I know it all goes back to his belief that there is no such thing as free will. |
That's not actually true. My belief in empathy is informed by the fact that free will is an illusion, but if that were not the case, I would still stand up for the people you refer to as "the dregs of society" just as much. Those "dregs" are still human beings. Someone has to stand up for them. |
Hehe I knew you'd bite that comment, fair enough, cheers _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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Quote: | THEY love walks on the beach and candlelit dinners. They’re sensitive, single and looking for love. But there’s just one problem for these lonely bachelors and bachelorettes: they won’t be released from prison for years.
Male and female inmates from all over the world, including Australia, are searching for romance online.
The websites they’re using read like e-Harmony or Tinder and the profiles are full of useful information including their measurements, hobbies, Department of Corrections identification numbers and “earliest release dates”.
But there’s a dangerous side, too. Meet-an-Inmate.com warns users it holds no responsibility for “costs” or “damages” incurred by taking a chance on love with a convicted criminal.
LONELY AND LOCKED UP
The process is simple at Meet-an-Inmate.com where lonely inmates seek “pen pals”. |
Why? Why would someone go deliberately looking for a prisoner for love?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/technology/prison-inmates-advertise-their-measurements-hobbies-earliest-release-dates-on-dating-websites/story-fnjwnzap-1227295663718 _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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Hmm... went to that website, and it appears to be a pen pal service for prisoners to connect to the outside world (I remember a Norwegian movie about some teenage girls using a site like this as part of a school project)—quite a laudable idea, actually. The website says on the front page "we recommend and promote using this site to find pen pals for friendships, and not romantic relationships." Still, not like the Herald Sun to misrepresent something.
Having said that, there is this website:
http://loveaprisoner.com/
One presumes they mean "platonic love", but who knows? _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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Still how long? I think it could be like the Herald Sun to misrepresent something. |
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Jezza
2023 PREMIERS!
Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Location: Ponsford End
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stui magpie wrote: | Quote: | THEY love walks on the beach and candlelit dinners. They’re sensitive, single and looking for love. But there’s just one problem for these lonely bachelors and bachelorettes: they won’t be released from prison for years.
Male and female inmates from all over the world, including Australia, are searching for romance online.
The websites they’re using read like e-Harmony or Tinder and the profiles are full of useful information including their measurements, hobbies, Department of Corrections identification numbers and “earliest release dates”.
But there’s a dangerous side, too. Meet-an-Inmate.com warns users it holds no responsibility for “costs” or “damages” incurred by taking a chance on love with a convicted criminal.
LONELY AND LOCKED UP
The process is simple at Meet-an-Inmate.com where lonely inmates seek “pen pals”. |
Why? Why would someone go deliberately looking for a prisoner for love?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/technology/prison-inmates-advertise-their-measurements-hobbies-earliest-release-dates-on-dating-websites/story-fnjwnzap-1227295663718 |
It couldn't be crazy as demonstrated by the article below about Charles Manson and why his fiancee wanted to marry him allegedly
http://nypost.com/2015/02/08/charles-mansons-fiancee-wanted-to-marry-him-for-his-corpse-source/ _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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think positive
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Like there isn't enough fucktards outside of jail you need to find one inside, sheesh
As for Manson, poor boy got duped hey? Should have been dead long ago, now there's a good use for a few grams of lead _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
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David. _________________ He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD! |
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ronrat
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: Thailand
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Manson should at 80 as a pathetic individual be promised release and never get it. He can get married, to Susan Peacock. _________________ Annoying opposition supporters since 1967. |
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David
I dare you to try
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The thread title says "today", not "every day". _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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